PDA

View Full Version : 3 Handed w/ Trips


JJBuffone
03-24-2007, 12:52 AM
.25/.50 NLHE being played 3 handed. Both of the two players are very loose and agressive and are good tricky players.

Button (Effective Stack ~$50) opens up for a raise to 1.50
SB (Effective Stack ~$100) calls
Hero (Covers both) calls w/ A /images/graemlins/club.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Flop (Pot $4.50) 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

I check looking to check raise as Button is very aggressive and will likely followup with a continuation bet on 75% of the flops especially a raggedy one like this. His check behind is really fishy.

Turn (Pot $4.50) 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
SB bets 2.50
Hero raises to 7.50
Button raises to 19.50
SB folds
Hero folds

When the button raises I went into the tank for a good 5 minutes and eventually folded. The only hand that I could see him taking with that line is 22 or 44. Very tough decision, what do you guys think?

EMc
03-24-2007, 01:42 AM
easy peasy all in. Sorry if you lost, take it to the bbv

JJBuffone
03-24-2007, 01:44 AM
[ QUOTE ]
easy peasy all in. Sorry if you lost, take it to the bbv

[/ QUOTE ]

Good analysis. Thanks for thinking on the 1st level. Plus the results are not what matters that's why I didn't post them.

EMc
03-24-2007, 01:51 AM
Ok, Ill hop on the nth level. You currently have trips with the best kicker. You have a button who is the PFR, he is easily raising SC and all overpairs. You are currently behind 2 hands, and have a shitton of hands which you are so ahead of it doesnt even matter. Additionally, the stack of hte button isnt deep, so all in is the default play. He can see you here as playing back at him knowing he cannot call without an 8, hence calling with 99+, and 8x which you beat. Additionally, he may have checked the flop hoping to keep the pot manageable with 8x or getting tricky with an overpair 3 hande.d

So, as I said before, easy peasy all in leasy, as you are eons ahead of your opponents range and a thinking opponent may see you as bluffing on your turn lead and may be slowplaying a n 8 originally trying to avoid a big pot, but now that he has a big pot hand, he wishes to get all in. So, as I said, get all your chips in the middle ASAP, cause you have the [censored] nuts pretty much.

JJBuffone
03-24-2007, 01:59 AM
Thanks, that's all I asked for. I agree with you for the most part. His check behind on the flop is what really confused with me and I just went with my gut. I just want to point out that these are not microdonks. The villain in the hand crushes midstakes NL online and is a high level thinking player. I respect his game a lot and didn't think he would re-raise without a hand that beat mine. Just my .02

EMc
03-24-2007, 02:01 AM
That fact he "crushes" midstakes makes your hand that much better. Im all for the next level but sometimes that just doesnt apply.

JJBuffone
03-24-2007, 02:07 AM
[ QUOTE ]
That fact he "crushes" midstakes makes your hand that much better. Im all for the next level but sometimes that just doesnt apply.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. Do you think this fold is absolutely horrible though?

EMc
03-24-2007, 02:11 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
That fact he "crushes" midstakes makes your hand that much better. Im all for the next level but sometimes that just doesnt apply.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. Do you think this fold is absolutely horrible though?

[/ QUOTE ]

Did the mob knock on your front door with pictures of your family, a gun, and a shovel, telling you to fold this hand? If the answer is yes, then NH OP!!!! Since I know the answer is no, this fold may be the worst ever. Id link this to BBV if I didnt have pity on you.

DannyOcean_
03-24-2007, 02:21 AM
i agree with EMC, although i'm not quite as fiesty. ARRRRINs the best play, the only play. I'll try not to jump if you ask me why.

JJBuffone
03-24-2007, 02:33 AM
I agree with you guys, I just went with my read. Can't blame me for that. I don't know if you guys play live poker or exclusively online but reading abilities do come into play and he was very confident.

DannyOcean_
03-24-2007, 02:41 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I agree with you guys, I just went with my read. Can't blame me for that. I don't know if you guys play live poker or exclusively online but reading abilities do come into play and he was very confident.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've played live just a little bit, but reads are overrated imo. Just my belief, but too many players try to overdo that portion of the game. There is a place where we can lay down a hand bc of a read, but not here, never. We all make the mistakes sometimes, don't sweat it.

Sigurd
03-24-2007, 04:38 AM
I really can't see myself folding this hand. I were actually trying to add "unless I have a super tell", but even then I would have to call because of the A kicker.

VPIP100
03-24-2007, 05:10 AM
Am I the only who doesnt like preflop? Calling OOP vs an aggresive button raiser is spewy.

Bork
03-24-2007, 05:37 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Am I the only who doesnt like preflop? Calling OOP vs an aggresive button raiser is spewy.

[/ QUOTE ]

A8s is a hand I would defend against button 3x raise pretty much every time, especially when SB sweetens the pot. Im gonna let it go vs a c-bet unless I connect though.. Also I think I would 3-bet sometimes vs a button hoping to fold them out, and lead flop if one calls.. Leak?

JJBuffone
03-24-2007, 04:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Am I the only who doesnt like preflop? Calling OOP vs an aggresive button raiser is spewy.

[/ QUOTE ]

A8s is a hand I would defend against button 3x raise pretty much every time, especially when SB sweetens the pot. Im gonna let it go vs a c-bet unless I connect though.. Also I think I would 3-bet sometimes vs a button hoping to fold them out, and lead flop if one calls.. Leak?

[/ QUOTE ]

Remember this was 3 handed. I think it's a pretty standard call to a button raise. Also, the thought of re-raising preflop did cross my mind also but the fact that the SB called slowed me down a little.