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Supwithbates

03-22-2007, 11:02 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($23.90)
MP ($15)
CO ($13.60)
Button ($38.80)
SB ($41.65)
Hero ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB folds.

Turn: ($4.25) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.5, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50.

River: ($6.25) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets $4, MP raises to $10, CO folds, Button raises to $37.3

Time to muck?

noob_sauce

03-22-2007, 11:11 PM

if there ever was a time to muck a boat... this is it... I think a fold is correct, wtf else would he make this raise with?.?..

Supwithbates

03-22-2007, 11:13 PM

Would this change if I had quads? Would mucking 77 (which I'd probably play similar) be correct here?

noob_sauce

03-22-2007, 11:18 PM

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Would this change if I had quads? Would mucking 77 (which I'd probably play similar) be correct here?

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W/o reads this is tough... I mean i'm basically banking on him having the nine of hearts the majority of the time here, some possibility of a four... In all honesty, 77/88/87 etc are all facing alot of heat from villains bet... this a brave play for even 88 to make here by villain IMO, and it is very likely at least one of villains have the 4/9... i play the same
real life I probably call with quads/88 and kick my dog when he turns up the nine

Pirelli

03-22-2007, 11:38 PM

Easy fold.
88, 87, 9h, 4h. Your hand is way down the list here.

Supwithbates

03-23-2007, 01:04 AM

I hadn't considered this river possible situation when I was calling the turn, but if I'm folding this river then should I just be folding this turn?

spyderracing

03-23-2007, 01:24 AM

I don't think you can drop this here

DannyOcean_

03-23-2007, 01:26 AM

never fold that turn at those odds a weak bet like that can mean he is still drawing, and he may just give up on a blank turn. gah i hate this board. luckily you will only catch a boat on a 4 sf board like once in a million billion hands.

kongs

03-23-2007, 01:27 AM

I would have folded the turn since there were so many limp ins PF and and the 6H makes flushes a straights possibilites.

Phytopath

03-23-2007, 01:33 AM

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I would have folded the turn since there were so many limp ins PF and and the 6H makes flushes a straights possibilites.

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Folding the turn is ridiculous, getting huge odds this is a beyond easy call trying to fill up.

This is a tough spot though, with 4 to the SF this happens so rarely that if you fold/call it isn't really the end all and be all.

Stake Monster

03-23-2007, 02:11 AM

Am I the only one that calls that bet on the river? You have a boat, and you're worried about a higher boat or a straight flush?

Did he have the ace of hearts?

Dunno, seems like you'd miss out on a lot of money if you folded on the river everytime your full house "might" be beaten.