Been working on me bluff spots... you like?

[noob_sauce]

Just curious about your guys thoughts on the spot I chose to semibluff here... normally I wait for some kind of read before I decide to start making these plays, but villain was unknown and my wife pissed me off minutes earlier (AKA semi-bluff rag board time)

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (5 players) noob is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $2</font>, SB folds, noob calls.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($4.25, 2 players)
noob checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">noob raises to $8</font>, Button calls.

Turn: A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($20.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">noob bets $10</font>

you likes? anything I overlook here that should have diverted the semi attempt?

[carnivalhobo]

flop raise is too small, and probably fold or 3bet preflop.

wtf are you repping by leading this particular turn for that size?

[cata1yst]

I don't like your flop check raise. I think it is much more effective to just lead that flop.

What are you trying to represent on the turn? Obviously the A didn't help you (haha I just read the first response after I typed this).

[Jay Riall]

Make the check-raise and turn lead a lot bigger and I kinda like it. I don't really advocate bluffing at 50NL much though tbh.

[fees]

you should bump the flop more, i do like the fire on the turn

[noob_sauce]

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flop raise is too small, and probably fold or 3bet preflop.

wtf are you repping by leading this particular turn for that size?

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was trying to fold mid pairs that would peel the flop c/r... by not being worried about the Ace I was trying to rep a set to one of the cards on board..

[Pirelli]

I like the flop c/r, it will win the pot often.

However, I think that's a really bad card for a turn follow up. I'd check and try to see a river cheaply

[Phytopath]

This is fine, but if you are going to make a CR don't be a wimp about it also don't wimp out on the turn. This is very transparent and these will be picked up on if anyone is paying attention.

I would probably give up on this one on the turn though, see if you can check/call cheaply.

[0evg0]

post stacks, but it all sucks regardless

and it's super funny when he shoves with AK and you just [censored] up a nice draw by not giving yourself odds to call

[Dilznoofus]

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post stacks, but it all sucks regardless

and it's super funny when he shoves with AK and you just [censored] up a nice draw by not giving yourself odds to call

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If I had AK and thought my opponent was doing this as a semi-bluff or with some weak made hand turned into a bluff I'd usually reraise or fold on the flop. If I have a hand to call the flop c/r, it probably doesn't contain an ace. I guess what I'm saying is that the turn ace is more likely to be a scare card for villain than to have improved his hand.

Maybe OP is not repping a hand very well, but if you're in villain's shoes here and you hold 99 how far are you going to take it? For all he knows OP is a donk who checkraised A5 and just improved on the turn and is now milking him.

[0evg0]

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post stacks, but it all sucks regardless

and it's super funny when he shoves with AK and you just [censored] up a nice draw by not giving yourself odds to call

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If I had AK and thought my opponent was doing this as a semi-bluff or with some weak made hand turned into a bluff I'd usually reraise or fold on the flop. If I have a hand to call the flop c/r, it probably doesn't contain an ace. I guess what I'm saying is that the turn ace is more likely to be a scare card for villain than to have improved his hand.

Maybe OP is not repping a hand very well, but if you're in villain's shoes here and you hold 99 how far are you going to take it? For all he knows OP is a donk who checkraised A5 and just improved on the turn and is now milking him.

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that's nice and all, but i'll post the thought process from a 50nl rando:

I HAVE BIG SLICK, THE ACE KING. I RAISE.

OH, WELL I WISH I HAD HIT MY ACE OR MY KING. BUT I'M GOING TO BET ANYWAY, HE PROBABLY HAS AN ACE AND A LOWER CARD.

WHAT'S THIS? HE RAISED? WELL, IN THAT CASE IT'S LUCKY I STILL HAVE THE ACE AND THE KING. THE TWO HIGHEST CARDS IN THE DECK. I CALL.

TURN A? YAHTZEE BINGO BANGO! HE BETS? EVEN BETTER! TIME TO GIVE ME YOUR MONEY FISHAROO! I'M ALLLLLL IN, READ EM AND WEEP SUCKER!

[Genz]

I fold preflop. I don't like playing these draws oop.

On the turn, you are representing the same thing you represented on the flop. And on uNL noone really thinks about what you are representing... So if you didn't convince him that you had a set on the flop (unlikely) and since people will raise any A on the button often, that turn card was very bad for you.

I might c/c flop and lead the turn as a block.

[Leviathan101]

I lead against a player who doesn't c-bet and C/R one who does. If you do C/R though, raise more. That's not gonna fold out anything.

I check the turn. He probably check behinds and you get a free card to draw. If not I let it go unless I have the odds to call.

It's not bad, but you need to play it stronger if you do this. Bigger raise, bigger bet, rep a bigger hand.