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jordiepop
03-22-2007, 07:32 PM
villian is pretty solid player. i know he has a hand like 77 here. My image is tight. can i fold out a hand like that.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $20
UTG+1: $17.55
Hero: $24.65
Button: $31.70
SB: $17.20
BB: $30.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.05, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11.6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">

jordiepop
03-22-2007, 08:15 PM
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Phytopath
03-22-2007, 08:20 PM
Trying to get people to fold TP or better is not profitable.

jordiepop
03-22-2007, 08:22 PM
so if your in villians shoes, playing against someone who hasnt played a hand , your gonna felt with 77 just because its an over pair? i think i have a good amount of FE here.

Phytopath
03-22-2007, 08:29 PM
You have some fold equity and your play isn't bad, but you also have 10 outs against a hand like 77-TT. I'm just saying you are risking alot in a rather small pot in a hand were you are likely to be called.

Angrymoog
03-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Seems like spewy fancy play, which is a problem I am slowly getting over. I think your best play here is a fold to his raise, but if you dont win with cbets often vs this guy, why not check/call the flop and then bet any overcard on the turn.

matrix
03-22-2007, 08:33 PM
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so if your in villians shoes, playing against someone who hasnt played a hand , your gonna felt with 77 just because its an over pair? i think i have a good amount of FE here.

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You think wrong.

it's 25NL - YOU CANNOT MAKE PEOPLE FOLD TPTK OR OVERPAIRS - trying is a waste of time.

Whether you or I would fold 77 here is irrelevant - 95+% of 25NL players will take 77 here to the felt.

Michael Fish
03-23-2007, 05:55 AM
yeah couldn't aggree more, it's just really not worth it. FE shouldn't be a big part of your game at 25 I learnt this the hard way by burning lots of cash when i first started playing. Just chill and wait for a better spot when you've got a hand.

As said 0 fold equity and this level people will showdown with nearly anyover pair as matrix so sustinctly put it.