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CanYouCallThis
03-22-2007, 10:58 AM
First hand I'm putting here, kinda guess the awnser but wanna check the lines on Hero. No stats on villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($5.60)
UTG+1 ($20.85)
MP1 ($25.30)
MP2 ($17.50)
CO ($14.40)
Button ($38.05)
SB ($24.15)
Hero ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif.
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, [color=#666666]4 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $1</font>, MP1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $1.5</font>, MP1 calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $2.5</font>, MP1 calls $2.50.

River: ($10.10) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4</font>, MP1 calls $4.

Final Pot: $18.10

I thought about checking the turn when I saw the hand, but then figured the turnbet was going to get called by loads of worse/drawing hands, and I figured it was likely Hero was still ahead.

Would it be smarter to C/C the turn? Or a smaller valuebet on the river?

CanYouCallThis
03-22-2007, 11:00 AM
Well colours are messed up, but U get the idea.

Bonesy
03-22-2007, 11:08 AM
I think all your betsizes are a little too small. I play it the same though betting more on all 3 streets.

Genz
03-22-2007, 11:14 AM
Bet more preflop, on the flop and on the turn. I might c/c the river unless villain is a calling station. There are a few busted straight draws out there. But just as many have come in by the river.

CanYouCallThis
03-22-2007, 11:15 AM
I agree with the betsizes preflop and turn, but bet more on the flop? $1,50 in a $2, what's wrong with that?

This is my standard bet here, so please, why make it $1,75-$2?

Genz
03-22-2007, 11:23 AM
value

CanYouCallThis
03-22-2007, 11:34 AM
LOL kinda figured that /images/graemlins/wink.gif but if I make my standard bet $1,75 here, I also have to pick up more pots to stay EV+ at CBing (or at least to make the same or more profit from it). Since I don't think there's that much of a difference between calling an $1,50 bet and a $1,75 bet for villain, I always figured making a 3/4 pot bet would be sufficient.

Why would I change the amount? I wonder, would I make more profit by keeping the 1,50 and miss like 10% value in the end with big hands, or hitting it up to $1,75 for extra value, but I will pick up less EV with CBing...

Anyone has stats on those kind of numbers?

Genz
03-22-2007, 11:38 AM
meh. It doesn't really matter. And it doesn't hurt to be consistent with your bet sizing so that people can't read if you are cbetting or value-betting. If that is your standard bet size it's ok. I always vary my bets a little so that I can bet more when I want value or good fold equity without giving my hand away. The flop play isn't bad.

Edit to add: it's 1BB more or less. And that can have an impact on your winrate on the long run. You want to extract the most with your winning hands.

CanYouCallThis
03-22-2007, 11:41 AM
Ok, thanks for the input /images/graemlins/smile.gif