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Clashes
03-20-2007, 10:23 PM
I can't find a converter for UB, if you know one please tell me.

Hand #40571175-4424 at Verona (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 20/Mar/07 21:39:18

IL_PLAY_RAGS is at seat 0 with $0 (sitting out).
Hero is at seat 1 with $52.75.
ttgirl is at seat 2 with $50.
gui166 is at seat 3 with $50.80.
thebuck is at seat 4 with $66.45.
mendelevium is at seat 5 with $111.45.
The button is at seat 2.

gui166 posts the small blind of $.25.
thebuck posts the big blind of $.50.

Hero: Ks Kc
ttgirl: -- --
gui166: -- --
thebuck: -- --
mendelevium: -- --

Pre-flop:

mendelevium calls. Hero raises to $2.25. ttgirl
folds. gui166 folds. thebuck calls. mendelevium
calls.

Flop (board: 6h 5h 4h):

thebuck bets $7. mendelevium folds. Hero...

What is your plan on the monotone flop? Villain autopotted it. This is my first real session on UB, as I have just moved there from 100NL stars, and am basically feeling out the site. This has literally never happened to me on stars, I assume because there is no betpot button there. Anyone have insight into what this means on UB?

jonyy6788
03-20-2007, 10:45 PM
I call the flop and evaluate the turn.

Pirelli
03-20-2007, 10:45 PM
I would fold it because you don't have the Kh. Your equity against their range isn't high enough in my opinion.

Unless you have some info on villain saying that they could be doing this with 99 or something, you're probably better off finding another spot.

the machine
03-20-2007, 10:46 PM
i make one call here and fold to turn aggression.

Clashes
03-20-2007, 11:09 PM
So generally, should I treat bets like this as strength?

jk1986
03-20-2007, 11:11 PM
Use the flop turn river converter and add "powered by ultimate bet" at the top of the hand history.

I'm with the others, call the flop and take it to showdown if you can do cheap. Against any more aggression you have to fold.

the machine
03-20-2007, 11:12 PM
they can be strength. the only problem is if you raise he may push a draw, he may push tptk with a draw, he may push a flush, he may push a set, he may push a worse overpair with a draw.

its almost impossible to figure out where you stand. and not having a heart in your own hand makes the hand tough to play


also Ax with the Ah is only a slight dog here given that he has 3 aces and 9 hearts twice, should his x be paired add anohter 2 outs and hes just about even money. we dont want to be shoving our stack to a possible even money situation or worse be nearly dead.

Check_The_Nuts
03-20-2007, 11:27 PM
I find they are generally {bluff, nuts}. Meanign he's either got absolutely nothing or your smoked.

Either way its either a call or fold, and I think I call here since they generally give up on the turn if called. He made a really strong move tho.

IMO villians who do this as a bluff plan to just autopot the flop regardless, so thats why its insta. Other times they hit a set etc. and just pot it cuz thats what ur suppose to do right (and it is insta because they don't have to think about it).