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Sir Winalot
03-20-2007, 11:09 AM
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UTG ($15.30)
MP ($29.95)
Hero ($23.10)
SB ($39.85)
BB ($21.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.25</font>

No reads. Fwiw, this isn't a standard play for me in a 3-way pot. What do you think?

dd323
03-20-2007, 11:12 AM
This is a standard play for me unless the person behind you is a total donk, calling station who will call with 33 here. I think his silly donk bet and the guy behind you actually makes you look very very very strong if anyone is paying attention.

Warteen
03-20-2007, 11:12 AM
Not good without reads. Average villain probably has a pocket pair and will call you down no matter how many bets you put in.

NoahSD
03-20-2007, 11:15 AM
BB has a pair less than a 7. I dunno if he folds it to a raise, but that's what he has, so act accordingly.

Oh, and consider calling and raising any whiffed turn higher than a 7.

Quester
03-20-2007, 11:18 AM
Standard for me as well. I'd like SB out of this pot and the raise can often take it down. A donk of less than 1/3 pot is often just BS to slow you down.

eigenvalue
03-20-2007, 11:19 AM
I wouldn't do it on this board to often. There are two kinds of donk bettors. The ones that have a real hand and try to trap you with a bet that seems very weak. This might be such a situation because there's no draw out there. He may have an overpair or something like A7. The other ones donkbet instead of checking, they like to bet a little when they are drawing to straights or flushes. In that case, your reraise would be great. Without a read, I guess you face the first one with a made hand because the board contains no draws.

CanYouCallThis
03-20-2007, 11:36 AM
Seems like a pretty standard move to me. Although with some players I won't, 90% of the time I'll raise it here.

Seems like the 3way action doesn't mean that much, since u've got a 100% lock-on read if the SB calls you. Pretty much the same stuff as a HU-flop here.

Being 2nd to act with just the donkbet from the 1st to act makes it a whole other scenario. I'll prob fold and find a better spot to get my cash in.

ama0330
03-20-2007, 12:54 PM
Dont like this, you represent nothing and he's bound to look you up light (small PPs as well as aces/overs you beat) so you'll end up having to bet again or call something on the river with ace high not knowing where you stand. Yuck. Id much rather just call here, spike my ace and showdown 3way (unless I got some real heat in which case id be happy to muck it).

ama0330
03-20-2007, 12:56 PM
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Not good without reads. Average villain probably has a pocket pair and will call you down no matter how many bets you put in.

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Genz
03-20-2007, 01:02 PM
I only do this when I have seen that there is regular donk betting at the table and the pots are often taken down that way.

juanepr
03-20-2007, 01:04 PM
I usually treat those min-donkbets as checks, so do what you would normally do if checked to. I'm not too fond of CBs into multiway pots, so it depends on how I feel about villians. I would only take your line if I really felt villians were very weak. If called, shutdown unless you spike a Q. I would not get too excited about an A, as that may make 2 pair for other villians.

barryc83
03-20-2007, 01:24 PM
I always do this and they always call with any pp.

fees
03-20-2007, 01:39 PM
standard

boycalledroy
03-20-2007, 02:06 PM
The rules I follow for cbetting a non-heads up pot. I have to have a draw however slim. Either 2 overcards, inside straight, backdoor flush whatever. I need to know that I am still alive somewhere. If I have 66 and flop has come A Q 8 or something like that I generally give up.

If there is a glimmer of hope I still think a cbet is +ev. Maybe I'm wrong like!