Don't try this at home

[fees]

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $48.94
UTG+1: $19.95
HERO: $112.70
Button: $96.20
SB: $11.80
BB: $93.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is CO with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $6.5</font>, 2 folds, HERO calls.

Flop: 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($13.75, 2 players)
HERO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $30</font>, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: $21 returned to HERO.

Results:
Final pot: $31.75

[delta k]

ya, i do this a lot. c/r A high flops=foldz

[EMc]

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ya, i do this a lot. c/r A high flops=foldz

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El Diablo theorem.

[delta k]

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ya, i do this a lot. c/r A high flops=foldz

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El Diablo theorem.

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yup. c/r A high flops gets a lot of folds.

[Xanta]

If villain is crappy this is good, though preflop is a little bit questionable.

In villains shoes I tend to check behind with KK, QQ, maybe with JJ. Is that wrong?

[fees]

bluff=profit

[Xanta]

Sorry, I don't follow.

Is that in response to preflop? Because there are a lot of situations where you can c/r bluff flop nicely, but you're stuck on a lot of flops too.

[tarheeljks]

this tactic can get you into trouble, unless you're also doing it when you pair an Ace.

[Xanta]

Maybe at higher levels, but I'd estimate that 90% of the 50NL playerbase doesn't take notes and a lot of guys you'll never play again.

[rakes.a.beach]

fees, what's your sn? =)

[Zagga]

Could be me or the site I play (everest) but I See people call stuff like this happily with AJo all the time.

[theflyingcow]

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El Diablo theorem.

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Care to explain to the ignorant? I'm guessing it's got something to do with RR preflop usually = big pocket pair / AK =&gt; more combinations of TT-KK than AA / AK given ace on flop =&gt; c/raise A high flops are profitable.

[tisthefire]

this is a fun play, even better when you're villian and you take it down with a raise there haha yay!

[Sir Winalot]

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ya, i do this a lot. c/r A high flops=foldz

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El Diablo theorem.

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yup. c/r A high flops gets a lot of folds.

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It does? The on time I tried it.. well, doesn't work. Maybe I'll have to try it against a somewhat competent opponent once I find it.

[xwillience]

i like it in certain circumstances. vs a preflop 3 bet it makes sense. but trying this in a more common hand with a single PFR, is going to end badly i think.

[Tiki]

Hmmmm...

Hero needs a fold 57% of the time to break-even (rake neglected) assuming that he loses if called.

Assume button is playing JJ+/AK and will only fold JJ-KK.
ie. Villain calls 15 times and folds 12 times to give a fold rate of 44%.

I suppose it depends upon villains re-raising range here, but under the above assumptions this c/r bluff is EV-.

[Lordy]

Fold pre-flop.

Unless Button has been 3-betting a lot, I don't see why you'd want to play QJs OOP in a re-raised pot, without initiative....

[ADK]

lol donkaments