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molotom
03-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Is this correct / what other lines do I have here? I am not entirely confident handling draws; I don't really know when to check behind and when to raise (or when to bet into the draw OOP).

I don't really know what his turn bet means.

On the river, I doubt he has the flush, but then if he doesn't, he's afraid of it too, so a raise is incorrect because it'd just fold worse hands?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($21.25)
MP1 ($11.55)
MP2 ($12.75)
Hero ($12.15)
Button ($12.05)
SB ($11.05)
BB ($10.30)
UTG ($6.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.2</font>, MP1 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, SB folds.

Turn: ($1) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.3</font>, MP1 calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30.

River: ($1.90) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.

Final Pot: $3.90

Mal_Pais
03-12-2007, 10:59 PM
molotom, I raise the flop with my pair+draw.

I call the small bet on the turn and I raise the river to $3. He doesn't put you on the flush, either. I think we get calls from two pair-type hands enough of the time to make this profitable. IMO, a good portion of these guys can't see straights on the board well. If he pushed over the top of my river raise, I don't want to go broke in an unraised pot against a small bettor and I can get away.

But then I'd be cursing for not checking behind on the river. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

jjb108
03-12-2007, 11:01 PM
You have bottom pair and an OESD. This isn't a monster. Your line is fine and yes the river is like a WA/WB situation and I check behind ***edit*** or in this case call river.

The other line is to semibluff raise the flop. I'd reserve that line for premium draws.

Go to school on the SSNL stickies.

Bonesy
03-13-2007, 12:29 AM
I definitely raise the river here. Villain has been betting small the whole way. I highly doubt he hit the back door flush. Raise to $3. Missing these value raises absolutely lowers your win rate. I'm positive worse hands will call you at this level. Whether this one would is unknown but you have to try.