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gobby888
03-12-2007, 07:10 PM
What was the best ev play here - call or go all in?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($3.16)
MP1 ($4.19)
MP2 ($1.96)
MP3 ($4.92)
CO ($5)
Button ($2.82)
SB ($9.68)
Hero ($5.40)
UTG ($8.26)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.04, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.26) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $0.04</font>, MP3 calls $0.04, Button calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04.

Turn: ($0.50) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $0.08</font>, Button calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

River: ($0.74) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $1.

Final Pot: $4.74

Jestli
03-12-2007, 07:21 PM
id go all, chances are he wouldnt be bettin .04 and .08 into those pots with those many people and have an ace, chances are ur just gonna chop the pot but if for some reason he doesnt have the queen u might get some extra cash

Hoffma
03-12-2007, 07:34 PM
I thought this was deep-stacked and was going to say "make this play to avoid a chop or make that play so you can still get out of he pushes and represents quads," but he's got $1.32 behind. He came alive when he saw a second A, and with all the limpers and weak-bet calling, I wouldn't be surprised if he has you beat. You have no FE here, I am just calling.

You may have been able to avoid this with a squeeze preflop to narrow the field. Sure, QJs sucks OOP, but I gotta narrow the field. I'm probably raising PF, but as played, I think you either need to lead, c/r, c/f the flop, but never c/c.

Archon_Wing
03-12-2007, 07:39 PM
You lose to quads or KK. KK is very unlikely, and quads.... putting your opponent on quads is hardly +ev so just shove and often you'll find he's doing with this incredibly stupid crap way more than he has quads.