$10NL - AK in mid position

[obloni]

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MP3 ($8.75)
CO ($13.45)
Button ($7.35)
SB ($8.05)
BB ($9.15)
UTG ($10.10)
UTG+1 ($17.15)
MP1 ($5.45)
Hero ($10.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.5</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds, Hero?

[Templar555]

I think I would raise to 2.5$ here... some might argue that this is not enough of a raise, but if he decides to shove, then the decision of whether to call or fold is made less difficult. Assuming you don't have any reads. You have position, so in my book you definitely gotta re-raise... just not too much that it commits you to the pot.

That's how I see the hand, but more experienced players might have better advice.

[Atlanta Andrew]

Unless this guy has been getting way out of line or ultra-aggresive pre-flop, you have a standard call here.

Be more inclined to 4-bet when out of position because the hand becomes much harder to play post-flop.

-Andrew

[RicP]

I agree with Andrew... I wouldn't 4 bet IN position... call and evaluate on flop.

[obloni]

assuming i call his 3 bet, then the flop comes A-x-x. He bets out say 3/4 the pot (about $2.5);

What do I do? Do I push or fold? Assuming no reads on villain.

[obloni]

What if it was K-x-x instead ?

[Ikaika]

if flop comes A-x-x or K-x-x and he leads $2.5, a shove at this point is just a standard reraise. I'd shove and be happy about it; unlikely that he'll fold a decent ace or a decent king.

[obloni]

So there is no way to avoid AA or KK here?

[Ikaika]

Why worry about two hands that beat you when there are so many more that you beat that will still come along for the ride?

[RollTide77]

[ QUOTE ]
So there is no way to avoid AA or KK here?

[/ QUOTE ]If you are worried about that then just call the bet. If an A or K hits and he bets then decide if you want to risk your stack. You can play it fast and push or slow and try to save a few bucks. I would probably just call PF and then call any kind of PSB on the flop with an A or K. Then re-eval on the turn.

[Bramsterdam]

You can't call and then fold when the flop comes like A-x-x or K-x-x in my opinion.

This is the moment where you have to decide wheter you feel good when the flop hits like that or not. If you call and the flop comes like that, you can't get away from it.

[obloni]

Yea I was thinking that I would have to push if an A or K fell on the flop.

I don't think he would have 3bet with 10-10; so that leaves JJ, QQ, KK, AA and AK that he would have 3bet with.

30% of the time an A or K would drop;
and when I push, he'll fold if he has JJ/QQ and KK too if the board is an A.
So really, my push on the flop is -EV since he won't call with a hand that loses to mine.

1/6 of the time A will drop, and he will only call with AA and AK so 1/6 * 1/5 * $9.00 = -$0.30
if he folds, then I win 1/6 * 3/5 * $5.00 = +$0.5

1/6 of the time K will drop, and he will call with AA,AK,KK
he calls, 1/6 * 2/5 * $9.00 = -$0.60
he folds, 1/6 * 2/5 * $5.00 = +$0.35

the other 2/3 of the time I flop nothing,
2/3 * $1.50 = -$1.00

Sum them up, the EV is -$1.05;
If i folded preflop though it would have only cost me -$0.60.
Of course, these calculations are inaccurate since even if I was losing I could hit runner-runner and things like that to win; and also the fact that he might find his JJ/QQ/KK hard to let go and call my push.


As played I folded preflop, thinking it would be a hard spot for me to play my AK.