NL10: AA on marvellous flop/turn

[molotom]

blarrggh

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($19.95)
CO ($9.75)
Button ($12.45)
Hero ($12.20)
BB ($1.50)
UTG ($8)
UTG+1 ($11.40)
MP1 ($11.10)
MP2 ($9.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.20.

Flop: ($0.70) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.7</font>, CO calls $0.70.

Turn: ($2.10) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2.1</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $4.20

[crushednuts]

all you can beat is 77-22.. or maybe AT, AQ or AJ...But since you have two aces...

pretty standard i think... opp has K here 95% of time

[good_gamble]

Standard

[molotom]

same again?

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UTG ($5.30)
MP1 ($10.05)
MP2 ($2)
Hero ($10.05)
Button ($6.05)
SB ($10.25)
BB ($19.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.3</font>, Button calls $0.30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($0.85) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.8</font>, Button calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.45) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.9</font>, Button calls $1.90.

River: ($6.25) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $6.25

[Templar555]

I would raise more preflop..

[jose_marti]

Looks good to me ...

[molotom]

Not sure what to make of this one...
I think his range here is AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK, so I just tried to control the pot after the flop/turn

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Button ($4.85)
SB ($4.60)
BB ($10.35)
Hero ($11.10)
MP1 ($3.15)
MP2 ($2.80)
CO ($11.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $0.7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.9</font>, BB calls $1.20.

Flop: ($3.85) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB calls $1.90.

Turn: ($8.85) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.9</font>, Hero calls $1.90.

River: ($12.65) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $12.65

[MSPChris]

You thought villain's range on last hand included AA?? How did you put him on a range of AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK ?

In that situation, I don't even think I would have tried to put villain on a range. At at 10NL game if I've got AA, and my opponent re-raises me, I'm all-in.

Your a huge favorite to double up if he calls you pre-flop.

The flop sucks for you. I can see calling the turn. would you have called a river bet also?

[Quester]

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In that situation, I don't even think I would have tried to put villain on a range. At at 10NL game if I've got AA, and my opponent re-raises me, I'm all-in.


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You're probably losing a good deal of value by not 4-betting less than AI when 100BB deep here.


Anyway, I'd like to see a bigger raise on the flop. I don't think your raise was large enough to define his hand very well. I'd raise to pot.

[MSPChris]

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You're probably losing a good deal of value by not 4-betting less than AI when 100BB deep here.


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Your point is valid -- but I have a question in response. If you four-bet here, and villain calls, look what happens on the flop!!

I'm relatively new at Stars, and I'm finding that the uL games are much tighter and more competitive than the other sites where I used to play. Still, I think I'd get enough calls on this play to make up for the lost value.

I also think I'd get enough calls on the four-bet to get hammered like the hero in this hand.

If you disagree, I'd be interested to hear why because I think you're point is a good one.

[Sean Fraley]

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You're probably losing a good deal of value by not 4-betting less than AI when 100BB deep here.


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I have about 15k hands at Stars 10NL, and I am constantly appalled at what I get called with when I 4-bet AI. You might be losing some value against some of the nits, but in general you're not losing that much. If you are not at a table where a 3-betting villain won't call it all-in when you shove, just look for a looser one. Trust me, they're there. To show you how loose these games are, I normally start my session on four or more waitlists, and make it a point to only take a seat at tables where the lobby says more than 55% of the players are seeing a flop. After I sit down, if PAHUD says the average VPIP had dropped below %40, I go to another table.