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molotom
03-12-2007, 01:46 AM
I think I messed this up pretty badly.

CO is a solid player, doesn't seem particularly loose. I feel the only things in his range I'm behind to on the flop are AA,KK,TT,AT.

Normally there are 6 ways for him to have TT preflop, now there's TT on the flop there's only 1 way he can have TT. As his preflop didn't particularly indicate TT, I think it's now pretty unlikely he has tens.

I'm not sure that he would raise with AT here either, though it's possible.

However I think my push is pretty stupid anyway. Also, should I have re-raised preflop, and if so, what do I do on this flop after he calls? (if he 4-bets I fold PF?)

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

CO ($37.25)
Button ($11.80)
SB ($5.25)
Hero ($23)
UTG ($5.05)
UTG+1 ($6.60)
MP1 ($26.20)
MP2 ($20.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, CO calls $18.50.

Turn: ($47.10) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($47.10) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $47.10

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qh Qd (two pair, queens and tens).
CO has Kd Kc (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: CO wins $47.10. </font>

the machine
03-12-2007, 01:48 AM
reraise this preflop. bet more on the flop. should you call him preflop dont lead into him on the flop here. all you do is push worse hands out and better hands call or raise. and if you do bet bet closer to pot. that 1/2 psb is way too weak

DannyOcean_
03-12-2007, 01:52 AM
I think the raise all in is really bad. What is he calling here that a 'solid player' as you described would raise this flop with? I call the bet and reevaluate the turn. If turn is blank and he fires again, i think we have to lay this down.

Also, don't post the results even though they are in white. You don't want the thinking of advice givers to be screwed up bc they saw results.

jonyy6788
03-12-2007, 01:56 AM
Reraise preflop

If you're not gonna reraise preflop, I check/call the flop.

As played, call his min. raise and play pokah

21SuicideKing21
03-12-2007, 02:54 AM
Not reraising preflop with QQ just gets you into trouble. I think if he shoves all in after you 3 bet it, then you know where you are in the hand, but just cold calling OOP with such a strong hand is tough to play after with, unless you are one of those players who can trust their decisions with strong PP's.