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fooz
03-11-2007, 05:29 PM
Villain is 24/13/3 after 870 hands. 25% WtSD and 71% folds to c-bet.

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $99.40
UTG+1: $58.60
CO: $8
Button: $108
SB: $83.75
BB: $139.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, SB calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($21, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $15</font>, Hero calls.

River: 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($51, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $35</font>, Hero ?

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I'm really torn between calling and folding. Given the smooth-call on the Turn, I think I have to call the River.
and12006
03-11-2007, 06:02 PM
Yep you atleast have to call the river, I'd probley raise of the turn I wouldn't think the 8 would of helped him.
fooz
03-11-2007, 11:09 PM
Anyone else?
whoisthedrizzle
03-11-2007, 11:17 PM
I'd probably raise the turn a decent amount, he could have a lot of two pair hands that you're ahead of. As played, call the river.
mugatu668
03-11-2007, 11:20 PM
I think I would raise the turn and fold to a push.
Khaos4k
03-11-2007, 11:56 PM
If we raise the turn, is anything besides a straight actually going to call us?
whyzze
03-12-2007, 12:48 AM
I think you are gonna see A10c, K10c, Q10c, J10c maybe worse with the 10c alot. Only with those holdings does the turn card put him ahead. otherwise, he just made 2 pair.

His flop play seems a little passive for the monster draw he could have, but very possibly still.

Id have to put him on a hand with the 10c and fold this river.
21SuicideKing21
03-12-2007, 01:00 AM
He's not betting with two pair here with this board. Like what Whyzze said, hes probably got some solid draw with the 10c, but if was I have no clue why he wouldn't reraise flop with a monster draw like that.
whyzze
03-12-2007, 01:02 AM
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He's not betting with two pair here with this board. Like what Whyzze said, hes probably got some solid draw with the 10c, but if was I have no clue why he wouldn't reraise flop with a monster draw like that.

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Unless he had 108c. But that seems out of line for someone with his stats in the SB.
Xanta
03-12-2007, 01:06 AM
I'm absolutely betting more on the drawiest flop I could imagine. I tend to bet pot in this spot.

Turn I raise, as scary as that card looks unless he has TT or 9Ts or something like that I don't think that it helped him. The comment about the two pairs here is a good one. 98, 78, 88 are all playing this the exact same way.
21SuicideKing21
03-12-2007, 01:08 AM
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He's not betting with two pair here with this board. Like what Whyzze said, hes probably got some solid draw with the 10c, but if was I have no clue why he wouldn't reraise flop with a monster draw like that.

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Unless he had 108c. But that seems out of line for someone with his stats in the SB.

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Forgot about my ol' favorite, the 10 8 suited. Yes he is definitely slowplaying that, sorry bout that.