Back to Back #2... 2nd nuts vs. heavy aggression

[noob_sauce]

I think all streets are questionable here...
BT is lagtard from hand #1. complete LAG.
main villain is 30/6/.6 over 50, no other reads.

I'm at $40, both villains have me covered (I'm reloading from the previous hand)

This may be standard, but I just want to make sure.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (5 players) noob is BB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, noob checks.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($0.85, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">noob bets $1</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($3.85, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">noob bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $8</font>, Button calls, noob calls.

River: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($27.85, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">noob bets $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $30.5</font>, Button folds, noob calls.

Results:
Final pot: $88.85

[Sweir]

Why overbet the flop with a non-nut draw?? I would probably lead for ~$0.7 there instead.

Considering CO is so passive and button cold-called I would 3bet the turn to avoid giving a free card to a set/As, button could well have sometime like As6. It also looks like CO has a good hand and probably isn't folding so I would just try and get it all-in on the turn.

As played I assume you are trying to induce a push with your small river bet?? Personally I would just put in a normal sized bet or push.

[dn77]

I agree... flop bet too large, reraise turn, bet more river. If he has Axs, then it's nasty luck for you, but no way I'm ever giving up on this.

[noob_sauce]

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Why overbet the flop with a non-nut draw?? I would probably lead for ~$0.7 there instead.

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Yeah, that would be ideal, but damn Absolute requires you to enter in "0.7" instead of ".7" which really annoys me. lazy... i know

[ABCofPKR]

i'm calling river all the time, he cold have Axs but either 23s,24,34s,45s,56s................................ ..........

[Vyse]

Just type the .7 after the 0 that's already given.

Yes, bet smaller on the flop but you do have to bet it. Reraise turn, get your money in there. Bet more on the river.

[noob_sauce]

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Just type the .7 after the 0 that's already given.

Yes, bet smaller on the flop but you do have to bet it. Reraise turn, get your money in there. Bet more on the river.

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Oh... I'm a genius, I've been overbetting .85 cent flops for the past two weeks for nothing!!!

[Montezuma21]

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Why overbet the flop with a non-nut draw?? I would probably lead for ~$0.7 there instead.

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you're wrong for two reasons:
1. with a NON-nut draw, we should be more willing to bet the flop because we get more folding equity vs the nut draw. with the nut draw, we might want to reduce our FE in order to get other worse draws to come along.
2. i don't think it makes much difference either way TBH.

reraise the turn: you're getting called by all worse flushes, and prob sets too. there's nothing to gain from waiting until the river and you would hate to see another flush card fall or the board to pair.

[Phytopath]

Get it in on the turn, and no you shouldn't worry too much about the nut flush here.

As for overbetting the flop, it isn't a big overbet I do this alot myself when the pot is small.