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Learning
03-09-2007, 10:48 PM
Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $9.70
Hero (SB): $13.45
BB: $5.4
UTG: $10
MP: $15.70
CO: $5.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($0.15, 6 players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.20</font>, CO folds, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, BB folds, MP calls $0.55

<font color="black">Flop:</font> T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.6, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.45</font>, MP calls $0.45

<font color="black">Turn:</font> T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif [9/images/graemlins/heart.gif] ($2.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $2</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $2 returned to MP

When the nine came down I realized that I not only wanted to avoid hearts, but anything that further assists the straightening/flushing board. Was this the right play?

It hurts to let a set of queens go, but there's so much that has me beat.

Mal_Pais
03-09-2007, 11:01 PM
Learning, I would raise more preflop, at least $1 or more. And I would definitely pot the flop. Because of our small flop bet, we have no idea what Villian may have. As played, I may flip a coin and call the turn, possibly taking the worst of it hoping to fill up. We have a well disguised big hand. When we checked the turn, Villian thought we have given up on the hand (considering our small flop bet).

The dilemma we're facing was brought about by how passively we played the flop, IMO.

Learning
03-09-2007, 11:04 PM
My big problem is avoiding betting the recommended amount due to a lack of callers. =(

You're right though. I think I focus too much on thin value bets and NEVER think he has a hand, probably because these guys on FT are so weak/tight.

Thanks for the critique - I need to learn to bet :-P

MrMxyztplk
03-09-2007, 11:12 PM
PF raise is good. Flop raise is bad.

Bet more on the flop.

fees
03-09-2007, 11:40 PM
call .. if u fill up u can stack him

haz31
03-10-2007, 03:50 AM
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My big problem is avoiding betting the recommended amount due to a lack of callers. =(


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This is slightly OT, but w/e

FWIW this is a big mistake alot of new players make.

If it seems they are always folding to your bets of the proper amounts, you should NOT bet less.

Instead you should raise and make the same bets that they are folding too more often, this will make them folding incorrect.
Conversly if they are calling your bets too much, don't bet more, instead bet less often with stronger holdings to make their call downs incorrect.

cb4mvp
03-10-2007, 03:57 AM
Bigger raise preflop.

On the flop, with a draw-heavy board like that, bet more like 3/4 pot to full pot bet.

On the turn, probably check-calling is the best play. Hopefully the board pairs on the river. Otherwise, check-fold river.

Genz
03-10-2007, 05:24 AM
raise more preflop from the blinds. You are going to be oop, so narrow their range with a slightly bigger raise and make them pay to draw out on you.

Your bet sizing on the flop is really bad. Make it close to potsize. You are giving 5:1 to draw here.

Turn is uneasy. You get 2.25:1 for you call. You need 3.6:1. So you need to be sure that you make like $2.5 every time you fill up, assuming you are actually behind here. When he has a hand (straight, flush, 2pair), he'll pay. So I probably call.

But the hand plays differently, when you are more aggressive on the flop.