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luckbalks
03-09-2007, 05:53 AM
Villain is 24/12/8 after 40 hands

Full Tilt Poker
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $23.15
SB: $66.35
BB: $33.9
Hero (UTG): $22.40
MP: $14.40
CO: $15.40

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.35, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $2.80</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.65</font>, SB calls $5.85

<font color="black">Flop:</font> J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($17.55, 2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets all in for $57.80</font>, Hero???

Sigurd
03-09-2007, 06:05 AM
Consider folding, since JJ and TT just hit a set, and we are still behind to AA and KK. However, the pot is bigger than our stack.

I think I would fold, but it is close.

Villains high AF is probably due to being on a heater, since he has a big stack (he could also have been silly lucky).

Galway
03-09-2007, 06:06 AM
Ahead of:
AJ, AT (unlikely) AhKh (barely)

Behind:
AA, KK, JT (unlikely)
Dominated by:
JJ, TT

I yell profanities at my dog and fold.

marvin_1935
03-09-2007, 06:08 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Ahead of:
AJ, AT (unlikely) AhKh (barely)

Behind:
AA, KK, JT (unlikely)
Dominated by:
JJ, TT

I yell profanities at my dog and fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

we're behing AhKh too

fold

Yenool
03-09-2007, 06:20 AM
Easyyyyyy fold. You can't beat anything now, you are even a dog to AK of hearts.... the only hand you might hope to see is another QQ.

To be honest I don't even like 3-betting with QQ preflop, I would rather call and take the flop... You dont want to get pushed off preflop by an aggressive player with AK or JJ.

brutalBeater
03-09-2007, 06:21 AM
Folding is good. There are very few hands we can beat here.

boycalledroy
03-09-2007, 06:22 AM
Throw it away, if he's bluffing on these sort of boards a lot (high AF) there will be many better spots to pick him off. Reload and play the game, position + holding v moron = massive +ev!

guess who
03-09-2007, 08:05 AM
Easy fold. This screams AA/KK/JJ/TT.

Brian O'Nolan
03-09-2007, 08:57 AM
Flop sucks, but that's due in part to the 4bet pf... not really a good play against a 24/12, in position, with QQ. If you have reason to think he's 3betting light, OK, but that's unlikely.

T-Bone98
03-09-2007, 09:21 AM
FOLD!

Debaser
03-09-2007, 09:54 AM
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Easyyyyyy fold. You can't beat anything now, you are even a dog to AK of hearts.... the only hand you might hope to see is another QQ.

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Woooahhh! His agg factor is 8? Even over 40 hands that's a whole lot of betting and raising. You've put in about 40% of your stack already and now you're getting 2 to 1 with an overpair.

You'll see enough retarded stuff at 25nl to make this an easy call IMO.

BobAllinSki
03-09-2007, 10:11 AM
~$14 to call into a pot of ~$32, I dont like the flop but I'm gonna call with an over pair here.

VPIP100
03-09-2007, 10:38 AM
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~$14 to call into a pot of ~$32, I dont like the flop but I'm gonna call with an over pair here.

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As played I totally agree.

mvdgaag
03-09-2007, 10:49 AM
call and hope to see AJ or 99 or something like that (which is not strange at uNL with someone this aggro). If you would have been deeper: easy fold.

Daniel LeClaire
03-09-2007, 01:29 PM
Looks like a pretty standard fold. A TAG raises your UTG raise, calls a reraise, and now shoves trying to look like a bluff. Does he ever NOT have AA here?

so sick bro
03-09-2007, 01:55 PM
EDIT : I take back saying call, this seems more like he flat called you with AA or KK pf



on a sidenote thank god for mozilla and image blocking, OP that's a [censored] gross as hell avatar, no one wants to see that [censored]

luckbalks
03-09-2007, 07:37 PM
LOL... you don't like the bell ringer avatar? At any rate he had AK hearts and won with a flush. I felt like I had to call with the odds I was getting against this player. I think he is also 4 betting AI preflop with AA and KK. At any rate that is a horrid flop for QQ not getting 4 bet preflop.. he could have easily hit a set here. Can you really fold here for the price I'm getting?