25NL Flopped TPTK against a lot of action

[Supwithbates]

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Hero ($32)
Button ($35)
SB ($5.80)
BB ($35.60)
UTG ($38.95)
MP ($30.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($3.85) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, UTG calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $34.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $37.7</font>, Hero folds.

UTG is a loose/passive donkey
BB is a 40/16/6 but usually prefers to play smallball

I hate going broke with TPTK because it's never ever good when I do, especially when I get this kind of action. This board is drawy so I feel like smoothcalling is bad, but the odds that BOTH villains are just drawing seems next to nothing so I folded

[losingdonkey]

good fold, too many people going nuts and all you have is top pair.

[Supwithbates]

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good fold, too many people going nuts and all you have is top pair.

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what about the action leading up to it?

[Vyse]

I don't mind the raise, you played fine

[ug45cwb]

Easy fold on a scary board with this much action. Someone will have a hand very close to the nuts.

[losingdonkey]

I like the raise also. If BB calls, UTG has odds to draw to a flush, which can be solved by raising to 12 or so, but that would also be building a large pot without necesarrily knowing where you stand.

[Supwithbates]

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I like the raise also. If BB calls, UTG has odds to draw to a flush, which can be solved by raising to 12 or so, but that would also be building a large pot without necesarrily knowing where you stand.

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I originally typed in 10 then decided to raise to 8 and fold to a push since KJ was likely given the action

[98Suited]

Nh sir

[thejesterj]

I think I would go for either a call or a very big raise. Particularly with the info you have on your opponents, I don't think there were many hands that were going to fold to the $8 raise. If you call here, you can hope for a nothing card on the turn and then you can bet out after your opponents check. So, I would probably go for a call even more than a raise. Even if you put in a big raise, if the first person decides to call, then the second person is undoubtedly going to call. Your luckiest scenario is that the first player folds and you get heads up. Worst case is what happened, which is you get some all ins.

[losingdonkey]

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I think I would go for either a call or a very big raise. Particularly with the info you have on your opponents, I don't think there were many hands that were going to fold to the $8 raise. If you call here, you can hope for a nothing card on the turn and then you can bet out after your opponents check. So, I would probably go for a call even more than a raise. Even if you put in a big raise, if the first person decides to call, then the second person is undoubtedly going to call. Your luckiest scenario is that the first player folds and you get heads up. Worst case is what happened, which is you get some all ins.

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calling is not better than raising here. it gives you absolutely no information and it allows anyone drawing to do so cheaply.

[corsakh]

Instafold.

[crushednuts]

I guarantee someone has KJ here. Probably get shown 99 or TT too. You are safe to believe you are drawing to runner runner ...

[Mal_Pais]

Drop it like its hot. You raised the flop, and Villians said "I don't care what you have."

[Tjorriemorrie]

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I think I would go for either a call or a very big raise. Particularly with the info you have on your opponents, I don't think there were many hands that were going to fold to the $8 raise. If you call here, you can hope for a nothing card on the turn and then you can bet out after your opponents check. So, I would probably go for a call even more than a raise. Even if you put in a big raise, if the first person decides to call, then the second person is undoubtedly going to call. Your luckiest scenario is that the first player folds and you get heads up. Worst case is what happened, which is you get some all ins.

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calling is not better than raising here. it gives you absolutely no information and it allows anyone drawing to do so cheaply.

[/ QUOTE ]The raise was fine. I think raising a bet with top pair (which isn't a good hand) on the flop is a very good way to find out where you stand - and it showed you are last in line.

[Supwithbates]

Just to clear this up, I felt like this line was super-standard too, but I was flamed/berated by several people and decided to double check to make sure I'm not being a nit
The only time I could see being ahead is if BB had something like QJ and was playing it aggressively, while UTG called with the flushdraw assuming I'd overcall with my TPTK/set/straight/w/e (or maybe if they were both on the flushdraw, BB having AsKs and UTG having 8s7s or something like that). I really didn't think this was likely enough to call the overbet shove so I folded.