$50 Party - What to do whit QQ here??

[Miraculix]

Hi.

Villain is 24/4/3,75 over about 100 hands. I find it really hard to play in situations like this.

Any advice....

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Button ($46.52)
SB ($34.15)
BB ($50)
UTG ($17.20)
Hero ($92.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $5.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $3.50.

Flop: ($13) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $20</font>, Hero?.

// M

[Gelford]

I'd four bet him preflop ... and would get it in here

[fees]

They normally like to play 1010 and JJ more conservatively, I think he SP KK or AA, planning to make a big reraise. It's going all in if you want a showdown, so let this one go and figure out how to take his money later.

[Supwithbates]

fold, a villain with those stats is only 3betting QQ+ so you're almost always behind

[eigenvalue]

My winrate has grown significantly since I'm able to lay down hands in these spots.

[Antinome]

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I'd four bet him preflop ... and would get it in here

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In these generally more aggressive games, 4betting here is no longer a leak IMO. I had 4bets with TT,JJ called by 77 and 33 this week. The plague of light 3betters from MSNL/SSNL has finally reached us. Take the 'Fold' button off your keyboard and prepare for variance.

[Freelancer]

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I'd four bet him preflop ... and would get it in here

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In these generally more aggressive games, 4betting here is no longer a leak IMO. I had 4bets with TT,JJ called by 77 and 33 this week. The plague of light 3betters from MSNL/SSNL has finally reached us. Take the 'Fold' button off your keyboard and prepare for variance.

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Your not playing on party I presume? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I'm feeling in heaven there, I'm like the only one 3betting very light and people LOVE folding to me. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[CIncyHR]

Looks like a fold to me.

[ama0330]

This is never JJ/AK IMO I just fold.

[Gelford]

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I'd four bet him preflop ... and would get it in here

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In these generally more aggressive games, 4betting here is no longer a leak IMO. I had 4bets with TT,JJ called by 77 and 33 this week. The plague of light 3betters from MSNL/SSNL has finally reached us. Take the 'Fold' button off your keyboard and prepare for variance.

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Your not playing on party I presume? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I'm feeling in heaven there, I'm like the only one 3betting very light and people LOVE folding to me. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Errr Humm ... /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Antinome]

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I'd four bet him preflop ... and would get it in here

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In these generally more aggressive games, 4betting here is no longer a leak IMO. I had 4bets with TT,JJ called by 77 and 33 this week. The plague of light 3betters from MSNL/SSNL has finally reached us. Take the 'Fold' button off your keyboard and prepare for variance.

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Your not playing on party I presume? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I'm feeling in heaven there, I'm like the only one 3betting very light and people LOVE folding to me. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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No, FT, Stars. I would fold at 25NL, flip a coin at 50NL, and raise at 100NL, adjusting for Villian.

[Freelancer]

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I'd four bet him preflop ... and would get it in here

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In these generally more aggressive games, 4betting here is no longer a leak IMO. I had 4bets with TT,JJ called by 77 and 33 this week. The plague of light 3betters from MSNL/SSNL has finally reached us. Take the 'Fold' button off your keyboard and prepare for variance.

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Your not playing on party I presume? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I'm feeling in heaven there, I'm like the only one 3betting very light and people LOVE folding to me. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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On party, I would fold at 50NL, flip a coin at 100NL, and raise at 200NL, adjusting for Villian.

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FYP

[SCBielski]

This is definately a fold given our villain's stats.

[Vyse]

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This is definately a fold given our villain's stats.

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And I'd fold it PF

[Miraculix]

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This is definately a fold given our villain's stats.

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Hi.
Yeah, I did fold thinking it might be to weak. I made the same conclusions as some of you, he probably has AA/KK.


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And I'd fold it PF

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WHY?? Villain only has a little more than half a buy-in but shouldn´t I play this for set value anyway? I think he would have problems folding AA against a Q high rainbow like that. The more I think of it I think I should have checked behind on the flop for a free turn card.
Am I totally wrong here???

// M

[Sigurd]

Calling preflop and folding flop.

[BalugaWhale]

dont fold pf

dont bet flop.

[payoff wizard]

Why not take the free card and hope for a queen? Given his stats, villain's pre-flop play indicates a higher pocket than yours, so if you hit your card you can stack him.

[bazza22]

Fold, he has AA or KK most of the time here making it less profitable in the long run if you call.

[SpecT]

this is a good flop to check through, and probably fold to a turn bet. This guy's 3betting range is really small and id b willing to say he has AA/KK alot here.

As played though, fold to the raise