50NL Top 2 raised pot with a 3 broadway flop

[OrBit]

I've made this call a few times now and lost every single time. When am I going to learn to lay it? On top of this, the guy Hollywooded me, asked for time and as the timer ran down pushed. I played pretty well all weekend, but ended it off with this. God do I feel like a moron. (BTW I'm including the results after this comment, it's probably not a shocker what he had. I'll probably get flamed even more than usual, but please refrain if possible).

Villain was 47/31/6. I've played a few hands with him at both NL25 and NL50 and seen him loose 63 bucks.

My question is, it was $25 to win a $70 pot, I MIGHT be a head (not likely but possibly against this guy), but if I was beat I had 4 redraw outs as well. On the other hand there were 5 hands that had me beat (even though 3 were very unlikley), and only 2 possible hands that I had beat. (Giving him credit for 2 pair or better).

My question is, am I ever calling this?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($44.75)
BB ($28.20)
UTG ($48.50)
MP ($52.75)
CO ($50)
Button ($36.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $34.25</font>, Hero calls $24.25.

Turn: ($73) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($73) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $73

[MrMxyztplk]

Given the guy's stats, it's not horrible. I don't think I'd lay this down.

I might bet/3-bet the flop too...

[Marshall28]

i cant fault this. villain could have FD, could have pair and SD, could have smaller 2 pr.

[Thremp]

Run better.

[b2l_cricket]

I would call especially with such an aggresive villain.

[Tiki]

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it was $25 to win a $70 pot

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Looks like your pot odds are about 2:1.

This villain has got a wide range here.

Hands you beat:QT,KT,AA 18 hands + maybe some others

YOU lose:AJ,TT,QQ,KK,J9 37 hands

Looks pretty EV neutral.

Therefore, call out of curiosity unless you tend to tilt after dropping a buy-in in which case fold and look for a spot where villain can "run you over" again. ie. Get a bit more curious next time.

Played fine.

[Sweir]

You have got your pot odds wrong when you say its $25 to win $70. You dont include the money that you have to put in when calculating pot odds, it is actually ~$25 to win ~$50 giving you 2:1. If you are behind then you are still about 15% to win. Considering this villian I think that his range is wide and includes a lot of draws and pair + draw hands like AK, he could also have complete air. You only need to win 33% of the time to make this a neutral EV call and you are sucking out 15% anyway so you really dont need to be ahead all that much, call.

[mvdgaag]

Sounds like someone that would do this with AK? I put him on AhXh or some other straightflush draw or less likely two pair (you have top two, so that's ok).

Looking at his stats I would do the same.

GL

[kabouter]

I would fold preflop

[Freelancer]

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I would fold preflop

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[98Suited]

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I would fold preflop

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Definitely a trouble hand oop. As played I don't think you can get away from this hand

[OrBit]

Don't you think that KQ is a hand to defend your blind when a Villain with a PFR of 31 is open raising on the button with? My VPIP is only 13 and I'd be doing that with almost any A, almost any 2 broadway, any PP, and possibly even mid suited connectors. I thought KQ was a nice hand to play against this guy...I feel like folding this plays too passive out of the blinds.

[Warteen]

Reraise preflop, don't just call.

[VPIP100]

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I would 3-bet preflop

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FYP

[Warteen]

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I would 3-bet preflop

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FYP

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Nnnnot the same thing? /images/graemlins/confused.gif But yeah, that's what I meant.

Edit: Oh yeah... you were quoting the other guy.

[VPIP100]

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I would 3-bet preflop

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FYP

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Nnnnot the same thing? /images/graemlins/confused.gif But yeah, that's what I meant.

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I did not quote you /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Yeh it is the same thing, good play.

[OrBit]

This is a little bit off topic for this thread, but what hands should I be 3 betting with right there against that type of opponent? His attempt to steal blinds was ~ 75%...

[Vyse]

You should be 3betting everything. SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT?

[OrBit]

small sample, only like 40 hands

[Vyse]

Any broadway, any Ace, Kxs, connectors, suited one gappers.