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private joker
01-03-2006, 08:57 PM
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero...
ackid
01-03-2006, 09:11 PM
Fold. SB is unknown an the pot is still small on a drawless board.

Looks like JQ to me.
private joker
01-03-2006, 09:14 PM
Is the turn raise unwarranted?
ackid
01-03-2006, 09:25 PM
I Like the turn raise because before his 3-bet its purpose was 2-fold, for value and information.

You are beating alot of hands(AJ/KJ/J/T) all of which would bet this flop.

I dont think any of those hands would make it 3 to go on the turn though.
Carmine
01-03-2006, 10:19 PM
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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero...

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I call down. How often do they C/R HU with a set on the flop.


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Is the turn raise unwarranted?

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There aren't many draws on this board other than 76 that he might be just bad enough to call with PF. I don't see the harm in just letting him bet away. Bet the river if checked to
Harv72b
01-03-2006, 10:23 PM
I don't like the turn raise for the simple reason that it's so difficult to fold TPTK to an unknown. I mean, he's saying pretty clearly that he doesn't care if the Q hit you (personally I think 44/55 are more likely than QJ), but you hate to fold a potential winner in a HU pot.

Until I had a read I'd just call down.