How would you play this if it was you?

[Aschweinsteiger]

Both villan and button have been playing very loose, seeing alot of flops with marginal hands at cheap prices. But Ive been at this table for only about 10 minutes and havent payed any attention to villans post flop play. My main focus has been to get the calling station to stack off to me.(hes the button player)

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CO :#A500AF(villan)/ ($43.65)
Button ($146.35)
SB ($48.50)
BB ($30.40)
Hero ($51)
MP ($53.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO :#A500AF(villan)/ calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.75) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, villan calls $4, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($18.75) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villan raises to $37.65</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $25.65.

River: ($94.05) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $94.05

I wasnt worried about the button player because hes a complete calling station both pre and post flop and the odds of him having me beat are very unlikely. If you were in this situation, how would you play my hand from start to finish? All comments appreciated.

[corsakh]

Bet more.

[crushednuts]

I would bet more on the flop (pot it) and the turn (pot it again) and then I would call to fill up and pray to god for the case ten or pair the board

The problem w/ TT is that a ten is required for a straight. Most of the time you flop a set, most hands flop a strong draw, unless the flop is something like T32 or T62. Normally with a flop like T9X, or JTx or T8X, I will just bet the pot straight out as you will likely get action from hands that are still drawing.

as played, FELT IT

[corsakh]

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I would bet more on the flop (pot it) and the turn (pot it again) and then I would call to fill up and pray to god for the case ten or pair the board

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You serisouly worried of 67 here?

[crushednuts]

QJ anyone?

More worried about the button having some bizarre draw. But QJs is in most peoples range at these stakes (ESPECIALLY THE BUTTON)

[corsakh]

Thats why you need to bet pot /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[crushednuts]

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Thats why you need to bet pot /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Uh huh? i'm confused as to why you asked me if i was worried about the 76?

[Aschweinsteiger]

he actually had JK

[corsakh]

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Thats why you need to bet pot /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Uh huh? i'm confused as to why you asked me if i was worried about the 76?

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Sorry, I'm tired.

[crushednuts]

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Thats why you need to bet pot /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Uh huh? i'm confused as to why you asked me if i was worried about the 76?

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Sorry, I'm tired.

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lol, okay

[crushednuts]

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he actually had JK

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ha, if he was that big of a donkey you would get his monies either way....

[PuppyFridayYall]

Easy check/fold on turn here.

Jake

[Sir Winalot]

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Easy check/fold on turn here.

Jake

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lool, good one. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously, you flopped top set in a raised pot, time to get some value of your hand. Bet more on flop-turn and snapcall the shove with a smile on your face.

[Triggerle]

Bet size on the flop is a little on the low side even if it is to disguise your usual c-bets. You would want to c-bet at least $4.5-$5 on a board like this so your value bet should be sized accordingly.

On the turn you need to bet more as the board just got wetter.

The turn in this hand is also the point where you don't worry about disguising your hand strength anymore. Villian will fold the same hands to a 2/3 pot bet that he would to a PSB so you want to get as much money in as possible.

[orange]

I'd play it the same. flop/turn could be a tad larger, but other than that, nh.

[Freelancer]

I play it exactly the same including bet sizes. It leaves about a pot sized push left on the river...

[Triggerle]

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I play it exactly the same including bet sizes. It leaves about a pot sized push left on the river...

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Why don't you want to get the money in on the turn? This is an honest question.

[avfletch]

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I play it exactly the same including bet sizes. It leaves about a pot sized push left on the river...

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Why don't you want to get the money in on the turn? This is an honest question.

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I presume he means it leaves a PSB for the river when villain calls turn.

[freedom18]

hes calling a PSB on the flop with QJ 67, given that its lower stakes felt this all day and night, we are good here more htan 50% of the time vs standard donks, but obviously not vs tight 'only go all in with the nuts' opponents

[Sir Winalot]

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I play it exactly the same including bet sizes. It leaves about a pot sized push left on the river...

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Meh, this is a little backwards imo. You would bet a little over 1/2-pot on flop, 2/3-pot on turn and then all of a sudden shove river for a potsized bet? I think this would just scare away too many hands on the river and we don't get any value from his draws and hands that will only call a 1 or 2 streets. I would much rather bet more on the earlier streets, and have something like a 1/2-pot shove on the river.

Thoughts on this?

[donkeykong2]

bet pot vs donks. because donks assume u want to buy the pot when betting pot.

[Freelancer]

ah wait, I missed the smaller bet on the flop. Yeah I bet slightly bigger on the flop 2/3 pot on the turn shove river.

The board is quite dry so I'm no to worried about draws that don't pay me off on the river. I also use these bet sizes if I double barrel and such...

My bet sizes would be;
5---&gt;15---&gt;shove



Meh at reading comprehension...

[prodonkey]

I haven't read any of the advice... if I was playing it personally.

Preflop is fine.. on flop I bet 5.. which would make my turn bet 15-16 and call his shove all day