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thePiranha
03-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Seat 1: Hero ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 2: BB($26.15 in chips)
Seat 3: 3 ($23.05 in chips)
Seat 4: 4 ($29.25 in chips)
Seat 5: CO ($18.05 in chips)
Seat 6: 6 ($32.40 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.15
BB: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [8/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif]
3: calls $0.25
4: raises to $0.75
CO: folds
6: raises to $2
Hero: calls $1.85
BB: folds
3: folds
4: raises to $5
6: calls $3
Hero: raises to $24.75 and is all-in
4: raises to $29.25 and is all-in
6: folds

These guys call a push with a wide range and i pushed for fold equity too. didn't fancy my chances with trying to flop a set. Is this a +ev move since there was already $10 in the pot?
I'm laying 2 to win 1 so will i be dominated enough times by a higher pp? I thought the calls were weak and it was either a fold or push situation. I did really only want to call to try to hit a set but after that reraise i decided to push
Will post results after feedback

Nick C
03-03-2007, 05:14 PM
It's not looking good once MP 4-bets. But Button did just call this time, so you're getting immediate odds of about 4:1 on your $3 plus a chance to win about $40 more (you have about $20 left after a call and both of your opponents have you covered).

I think you have a pretty easy call, closing the action, based on your implied odds on a set. I don't like the push, though.

By the way, you're in the wrong forum.

Sean Fraley
03-03-2007, 05:25 PM
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By the way, you're in the wrong forum.

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By chance could you tell us which other forum he should post a hand concerning a six handed NL hold 'em game with a $0.25 cent big blind?

Nick C
03-03-2007, 05:31 PM
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By the way, you're in the wrong forum.

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By chance could you tell us which other forum he should post a hand concerning a six handed NL hold 'em game with a $0.25 cent big blind?

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The hand was in the Small Stakes Short-handed limit forum at the time when I responded to it. It's been moved since then.

Sean Fraley
03-03-2007, 05:32 PM
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The hand was in the Small Stakes Short-handed limit forum at the time when I responded to it. It's been moved since then.

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My apologies then.

BishopsFinger
03-03-2007, 05:36 PM
i dont think a push here is the correct play really,

against one opponent maybe a push with a hand like this would be better but id still just smooth call this and play it for set value.

youre either going to end up with a coin toss or dominated 4.5-1 and with 2 players remaining i dont think you have much fe here. a call in my book (but im new to the game so lets see eh)

miw210
03-03-2007, 05:50 PM
Spewy. You have to expect a call most of the time after action like that, and a call is not what you want.

Also, you limped after the original raiser, which would send bells off in my head if I was villain that this is a steal attempt.

futuredoc85
03-03-2007, 05:54 PM
this is bad, your line isnt very likely to be a monster since you just called the first time so i think you get looked up by most higher pairs

Check_The_Nuts
03-03-2007, 06:08 PM
the overcall was OK at best. God just make it end after that.

matrix
03-03-2007, 07:51 PM
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These guys call a push with a wide range and i pushed for fold equity too.

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does not compute.

If they call a push with a wide range - your fold equity is low.

You're closing the action pre when you push - there's 10 in the pot - there's good implied odds - call for set value.