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_TKO_
03-03-2007, 04:05 PM
Villian is 22/8/oo over 80 hands.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $58.15
CO: $61.60
Button: $94.58
SB: $57.56
BB: $35.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $6</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($12.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $8</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($28.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $18</font>, Hero times out.


Flop and turn advice please.

davidyang
03-03-2007, 04:08 PM
I think folding turn is ok. Best case scenario you have the same hand. He is pretty aggressive postflop, but I don't think he does this with QQ/JJ esp. considering your flop call on a pretty dry, K high board.

Sean Fraley
03-03-2007, 05:43 PM
You have TPTK, so I would bet out for $9. If you are raised, fold. If called, block the turn and fold to a raise.

danny8
03-03-2007, 05:53 PM
flop is fine. i think c/f turn is fine too... Like David said best case scenario he has AK.

the only part im not sure about is PF. AK obviously isnt a coinflip vs PP's if you only get to see a flop. And your gonna be c/f unless an A or K falls. Obviously if hes 3betting a lot, or youve been caught raising very lightly, then foldings prolly too weak.

Just saying against people you know little about, if you havnt seen them 3bet much before (and you havnt been caught raising lightly) i dont think mucking AK pf to a 3bet is a huge mistake...

BishopsFinger
03-03-2007, 06:16 PM
ak oop pf is not a great place to be but im still definitely calling here.

i think i would bet out on the flop then just shut down to a raise. a smooth call poses a problem - id just make a smallish bet on the turn and see how things go, but im certainly folding the turn bet as played.

Vyse
03-03-2007, 06:17 PM
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You have TPTK, so I would bet out for $9. If you are raised, fold. If called, block the turn and fold to a raise.

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I like this

Check_The_Nuts
03-03-2007, 06:20 PM
[censored] I wrote something nitty about folding pre. I really think betting the flop would be better. check/calling just feels like your inducing bluffs you can't call.

matrix
03-03-2007, 07:31 PM
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You have TPTK, so I would bet out for $9. If you are raised, fold. If called, block the turn and fold to a raise.

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I like this

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I hate this.

i) what worse hands call our bet??
ii) leading for $9 is way too much - this is a re-raised pot - if you are going to lead make it $7.
iii) this is not a good spot for a CB imo.
iv) if we block the turn after leading for $9 thats half our stack in the middle, we have a hard time getting away now because of pot odds.
v) we have one pair OOP - yes villain is super aggro but he -re-raised pre and if he's only ever raising 8% of hands he's not bluffing here.

c/c flop is goot.

folding turn is goot.

he has AK here often - QQ sometimes and AA/set rest of the time.

I fold the turn.