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chasern1
03-03-2007, 03:19 PM
villain: 45/14/2

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $70.9
BB: $49.5
Hero (UTG): $54.45
MP: $68.20
CO: $52.60
BTN: $49.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.75, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $4.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, SB calls $8

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 3http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($25.5, 2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets $20.50</font>, [i]Hero ?
Reef
03-03-2007, 03:23 PM
he a showdown monkey? has he gotten out of line? how much has he 3bet pf? have you guys battled?
chasern1
03-03-2007, 03:32 PM
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he a showdown monkey? has he gotten out of line? how much has he 3bet pf? have you guys battled?

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nope, i didn't noticed anything, it was my first hand with this guy
losingdonkey
03-03-2007, 03:39 PM
hes probably not reraising preflop with 33, 44, or 88. There aren't any overcards on the board, and if you're not putting him on KK or AA, I think its a push
Thremp
03-03-2007, 04:26 PM
In this spot your preflop 4bet is almost a bluff.
Unknown Soldier
03-03-2007, 04:28 PM
push this is TT/JJ so often
davidyang
03-03-2007, 04:31 PM
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push this is TT/JJ so often

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I agree. I think if he had KK or AA to trap, he's not going to donk bet like this, at least IMO. I think a c/r is most likely with those holdings.
_TKO_
03-03-2007, 04:37 PM
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In this spot your preflop 4bet is almost a bluff.

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With a 14PFR, there's definately value to be had that you don't gain postflop.
evazan
03-03-2007, 04:44 PM
I would push this flop. AA or KK likely would have tried to get all in pf. I'd put villain on jj/10 10.
Vyse
03-03-2007, 06:16 PM
Snap push, this isn't tough at all
BishopsFinger
03-03-2007, 06:26 PM
definite ai- youll be beat by aa/kk occasionally but i think he wouldve shoved with that already and whilst 88 isnt completely out of the question its uber-unlikely (&lt;5%).
pushing will make you a solid profit here.
Thremp
03-03-2007, 08:46 PM
I'm baffled, what do loose passive villains 3bet and call thick 4bets and then pot on the flop?
Check_The_Nuts
03-03-2007, 10:12 PM
why would you 4bet QQ then be scared to get it in on that flop? What flop are you looking for exactly?

If I 4bet its cuz I think he'll call with AQ/AK/bunch pairs and then still stack off on low flops when he whiffs.
allaboutmyfetti
03-03-2007, 10:27 PM
if ur gonna 4b pf (not 4bai), please don't flop a junk flop like this.
Thremp
03-03-2007, 10:28 PM
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why would you 4bet QQ then be scared to get it in on that flop? What flop are you looking for exactly?

If I 4bet its cuz I think he'll call with AQ/AK/bunch pairs and then still stack off on low flops when he whiffs.

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Heh. Get out of level 1 and into level 2.