Best Bonus in Online Poker at WPEX

[Benjamin]

The most generous bonus in online poker is live until 1am tonight. 'Aces Never Lose' at World Poker Exchange runs Weds-Sat from 1pm to 1am. Put that on top of 100% rakeback all the time and you have the best bonus in the game!
The largest rakeback bonus paid last week was $5,032.90, and you gotta figure that guy scored a lot of cracked aces bonuses too.

http://www.worldpx.com/promotions/aces.asp

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Lose with pocket aces… and you WIN!
... we will be running this promotion four days a week – Wednesday through Saturday, 1pm to 1am Eastern Standard Time, each day.

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Aces Never Lose (Details):

This promotion applies to real-money Texas Hold 'em & 7-Card Stud games only (7-Stud H/L games are not eligible).

Three or more players must be dealt into the hand for it to qualify.

A hand must go to a showdown to qualify.
7-Stud: Both your 1st two cards down (hole cards) AND your last card down (7th Street) constitute a qualifying hand for this promotion.
A losing player with pocket aces receives funds at the following levels:

NL/PL$100 = $25.00
NL/PL$200 = $25.00

$1/$2 = $25.00 $2/$4 = $25.00
$3/$6 = $50.00 $5/$10 = $50.00
$8/$16 = $50.00
$10/$20 & higher = $75.00

(Fixed-limit tables of $.50/$1 and under are not eligible; no-limit/pot-limit tables of under $.50/$1 are not eligible.)

In order to claim your "Aces Never Lose" bonus, e-mail the relevant hand number to aces@worldpx.com within 24 hours.

Disclaimer: Players attempting to undermine the intention of the promotion through deliberate manipulation of play will not be eligible for this bonus.
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[metsandfinsfan]

wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

[Benjamin]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Blow me.

[grouchie]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Blow me.

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it's been awhile since you replied.. just writing to see if he has yet or not?

[dostofan]

Heard it's about $5hr "bonus" playing 1/2 FRLH. Not bad.

[Benjamin]

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it's been awhile since you replied.. just writing to see if he has yet or not?

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lolz

[Benjamin]

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Heard it's about $5hr "bonus" playing 1/2 FRLH. Not bad.

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The low limit figures for rakeback are a bit wack because they have slightly higher rake than usual. Still a great deal. I mostly play 10/20 6-max and that averages $30-35/hour rakeback bonus plus cracked aces.

[MR EPI]

It is about $3.00 per hour at 1/2 frlhe

[Nina]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Yeah right... every single player in the universe knew

[boondoggle]

LOL..this site is doing good with 400 players and 380 are from 2+2..why would I want to play here...

cheers
Boon

[lefty rosen]

Yeah and the other 20 play like they know what the RNG will deliver with their crazy donk pre and post flop quads.......

[Bobo Fett]

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It is about $3.00 per hour at 1/2 frlhe

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????

Ouch! $3/hour is usually on the low end when I'm bonus whoring 1/2 FR. Party, Paradise, Prima 10x, UB, and Cryptos all make me more than this. No wonder I don't play there...

[Bobo Fett]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Yeah right... every single player in the universe knew

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Wonderful...this means we all get to keep hearing about it until every player in the universe knows? Sigh.

[Benjamin]

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Wonderful...this means we all get to keep hearing about it until every player in the universe knows? Sigh.

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What is the problem with one thread, clearly labeled, about this great bonus, in the appropriate forum?

Why would you bother clicking on it if you didn't want to read it?

[Benjamin]

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It is about $3.00 per hour at 1/2 frlhe

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Ouch! $3/hour is usually on the low end when I'm bonus whoring 1/2 FR. Party, Paradise, Prima 10x, UB, and Cryptos all make me more than this. No wonder I don't play there...

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I can't verify who is correct on the rakeback earn at 1/2 frlh since I hardly ever play it. Bonuses at other sites at low limits can add up to more than 100% rakeback, it's true, but I didn't think it was common. I don't think UB's bonus is close to 100% rakeback, though, for instance.

In addition to 100% rakeback, a bonus whore would probably only play during Aces Never Lose times. Which adds some more ev.

Roughly speaking, assuming a little less than 100 hands/hour, you will get aces about once every 2.5 hours. They will lose 1 time in 5, or once every 12.5 hours. At 1/2 limit hold'em you get $25 bucks bonus, so that adds $2/hour to your earn.

[Genesis]

100% rakeback at:
$1/2 6max limit is about $5/100
$2/4 6max limit is about $9.50/100

Unless they have a good bonus going, no site can beat that return. For a casual player, you may be able to beat it because you can find enough of these good bonuses around that amount to > 100% rakeback. For anyone who plays a lot there aren't enough of these bonuses. This is especially true now that a lot of the processors (Neteller and such) are out of the US, making moving money around to get all these bonuses darn near impossible.

That being said, the games are tough. But the returns are good if you don't mind being a break even player.

[celiboy]

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100% rakeback at:
$1/2 6max limit is about $5/100
$2/4 6max limit is about $9.50/100

Unless they have a good bonus going, no site can beat that return. For a casual player, you may be able to beat it because you can find enough of these good bonuses around that amount to > 100% rakeback. For anyone who plays a lot there aren't enough of these bonuses. This is especially true now that a lot of the processors (Neteller and such) are out of the US, making moving money around to get all these bonuses darn near impossible.

That being said, the games are tough. But the returns are good if you don't mind being a break even player.

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Thanks for this. The WPX software is very fast, so in an hour you can get around 120 hands in at 6 max, so from my limited play there it comes to about $7 an hour at 1/2 6 max (also keep in mind that alot of times it'll be 4 or 5 handed upping the hands per hour to about 140). Anyone else getting this too? This is better than Ultimate Bet even when factoring in bonus, rakeback and cash for points there.

[Benjamin]

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100% rakeback at:
$1/2 6max limit is about $5/100
$2/4 6max limit is about $9.50/100


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At 6-max the cracked aces bonus will come more quickly too, probably $2.50 or $3 per hour. $8/hour to break even on a single 1/2 6-max is one sweet package.

[Fishy McDonk]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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There is something unsettling about a person who makes almost 10,000 posts on one website in a little over a year

[Benjamin]

OK, spent a few minutes to look in PT for some stats. These come from a recent period of mine.

10/20 6-max: 16,152 hands in 125.7 hours with a multi-table ratio of 1.08 and average players getting cards of 5.2. 1.08*125.7 = 135.7 table hours. MGR=rakeback= $5,120. Hourly = 5,120/135.7 = $37.7/hour.

10/20 6-max rakeback: $37.7/hour.

I averaged 119 hands/tablehour. Playing during Aces promo, I'll see aces once every 221 hands, or 1.85 hours on average, and if we assume they lose 1 time in 5, then they will lose once every 9.25 hours for a bonus of $75 bucks. That is $8.10/hour more.

Total bonus playing during Aces promo at 10/20 6-max: $45.80/hour.

10/20 full ring stats: 14,446 hands. Average players/hand: 7.47 . MGR: $4,353.59 . Hours: 134.07 . Multitable ratio: 1.1 Table hours: 147 . Hands/hour: 98 .

10/20 full ring (7.5 players average dealt in) rakeback: $29.5/hour

Aces promo 10/20 full ring (7.5 players): 2.26 hours to see an ace, 11.3 hours for cracked. $6.6/hour.

Total bonus at 10/20 full ring (7.5 players): $36.1/hour.

[justin]

my 2 cents as that guy who got the biggest rakeback and scored the bonuses for cracked aa.... ive had highest RB on site last 4 weeks in row yet account=busto /images/graemlins/confused.gif Still love the site though

[Benjamin]

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my 2 cents as that guy who got the biggest rakeback and scored the bonuses for cracked aa.... ive had highest RB on site last 4 weeks in row yet account=busto /images/graemlins/confused.gif Still love the site though

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Wow. I believe it though. When I tried to max out my rakeback playing 4 tables at once I found myself roughly a breakeven player after rakeback, or worse. When I play one or two tables and I pay decent attention, I win before rakeback. That's something I like, actually. I can earn a decent living playing something more akin to 'real' poker. Repetitive stress injury (carpal tunnel and other variations) means that I can't multi-table for a lot of hours anyway.

[Benjamin]

40 minutes before Aces Never Lose.

Traffic has been noticeably higher at WPEX lately.

They added Omaha Hi this week.

/images/graemlins/heart.gif WPEX

[Debaser]

This has probably been discussed before, but at the lowest limits wouldn't it be worth losing on purpose with AA?

I'm not suggesting you should abuse the promotion cos on top of the 100% rakeback it's a sweet bonus and that would just be taking the piss but at 1/2 fixed raising pf and winning the blinds would be silly. There must be an awful lot of limping in with AA, even behind limpers.

[Benjamin]

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I'm not suggesting you should abuse the promotion cos on top of the 100% rakeback it's a sweet bonus and that would just be taking the piss but at 1/2 fixed raising pf and winning the blinds would be silly. There must be an awful lot of limping in with AA, even behind limpers.

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Yes, open-limping/slow-playing AA becomes common during Aces Never Lose. Makes for some interesting dynamics at times.

[justin]

does open limping aa violate the terms of aces never lose? isnt there something where it says you cant intentionally try to misplay hand?

[Benjamin]

No, open-limping and slow-playing do not violate the terms, as they are tactics that people do sometimes use in absence of the bonus. I don't know what it would take, but a team of people playing the same table to purposefully crack aces and cash the bonus would be in clear violation.

[Benjamin]

Bonus/Rakeback rates at 5/10.

5/10 6-max: 5,045 hands in 41.9 table hours. MGR=rakeback= $1,104. APH in this sample: 5.38 players/hand.

Hourly rakeback = $26.30/table-hour.

Cracked Aces should hit once every 9.25 hours for a bonus of $50 bucks. That is $5.40/hour more during Weds-Sat 1pm-1am.

Total bonus/rakeback playing during Aces promo at 5/10 6max: $31.70/hour.

5/10 full ring stats: 10,467 hands. Average players/hand: 8.7 . MGR: $1,961 . Table Hours: 120 . Hands/hour: 87.2 .

5/10 full ring (8.7 players) rakeback: $16.3/hour

Aces promo 5/10 full ring (8.7 players): 2.5 hours to see an ace, 12.5 hours for cracked. $4/hour.

Total bonus at 5/10 full ring during Aces Promo (8.7 players): $20.3/table-hour.

[Benjamin]

3/6 6-max: 8,692 hands in 69.9 table hours. MGR=rakeback= $1,111. APH in this sample: 5.45 players/hand.

Hourly rakeback = $15.9/table-hour.

Cracked Aces should hit once every 9.25 hours for a bonus of $50 bucks. That is $5.40/hour more during Weds-Sat 1pm-1am.

Total bonus/rakeback playing during Aces promo at 3/6 6max: $21.3/hour.

3/6 full ring stats: 1,867 hands. Average players/hand: 8.2 . MGR: $193 . Table Hours: 19.6 . Hands/hour: 95.2 .

3/6 full ring (8.2 players) rakeback: $9.8/hour

Aces promo 3/6 full ring (8.2 players): 2.3 hours to see an ace, 11.5 hours for cracked. $4.3/hour.

Total bonus at 3/6 full ring during Aces Promo (8.2 players): $14.1/table-hour.

[Benjamin]

Bump for the start of Aces Never Lose this week.

Wednesday through Saturday, 1pm to 1am Eastern Standard Time, each day.

A new update provides a mini-view table. Yay!

[froggy527]

So tell us Ben are you a rep for WPEX? Because by the
looks of your posting history you should be! I'm still
in therapy from the mass spam event that came with WPEX!

[Benjamin]

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So tell us Ben are you a rep for WPEX? Because by the
looks of your posting history you should be! I'm still
in therapy from the mass spam event that came with WPEX!

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I get paid every week by them /images/graemlins/wink.gif. But I'm not an employee or rep. I just think they are worth promoting, and I'd like to see more traffic there. I agree the barrage of 'You're an idiot if you play anywhere else but WSEX' after they went rakefree was annoying. But, I think one thread in the appropriate forum to remind people of this great bonus is appropriate, no?

If you look back at my posting history you'll find most of my posts were in the old Heads-up Short Handed Limit forum, but I got burnt out on the volume of posters, so I post strategy on a smaller site now when I have the itch.

[djmeehan]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Yeah right... every single player in the universe knew

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LOl Maybe I'm the last player to find out but thx for the info!

[Benjamin]

It's Weds again. You know what that means. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Another update downloaded today following the servers being down for 2 hour maintainance yesterday. I assume it was a bug fix update, haven't noticed any changes.

Software feels especially snappy, maybe only because of light traffic at the moment.

For those of you who missed it, last week in the Zoo there was a thread where someone got his account frozen under suspicion of being a bot. Apparently WPEX introduced new bot-detection software and this guy was fingered.

Turns out it was an AHK script, WPEX unfroze his money and apologized.

WPEX could have handled it better. The guy should have been given the chance to prove his point by the Customer Service manager he spoke to. But once the GM got involved I was impressed how quickly it was resolved.

I came away happy that WPEX is actively bot-hunting and freezing their accounts, and confident that if I were mistakenly fingered, then I can trust WPEX to resolve it promptly.

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif WPEX

[Benjamin]

Wednesday again, starting the 4 days of Aces Never Lose.

I noticed that the last upgrade added a 'Bet Pot' button to NL and PL tables.

[Sammich]

light traffic at the moment? Ive never seen decent traffic on WPEX. Of course I play limit which may be why.

[E.Z.]

hey benji, you're going to kill your own bonus bud. most everyone knows about the promo. i dont want the promo to die.

side note** you plug this site like freeoffers now used to plug his own (he acted as if he was his own customer in other forums)

[Benjamin]

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light traffic at the moment? Ive never seen decent traffic on WPEX. Of course I play limit which may be why.

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Limit traffic is way better than no limit at WPEX, in general. It's a small site thus far, no doubt.

[Benjamin]

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hey benji, you're going to kill your own bonus bud. most everyone knows about the promo. i dont want the promo to die.

side note** you plug this site like freeoffers now used to plug his own (he acted as if he was his own customer in other forums)

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I'd be ecstatic if the site got so big they had to cancel the Aces bonus. I'd much rather have the larger player pool.

[Benjamin]

Bump for Wednesday, the start of Aces Never Lose.

[Benjamin]

The largest bonus paid out for last week's play was $5,955. You can probably add $500+ worth of cracked aces to that guy's take, too.

Yowza, can you say $250k in rakeback playing 40 weeks a year?

I can't play that much, repetitive stress injury, but the potential is there for those with more endurance.

[DavidC]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Blow me.

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it's been awhile since you replied.. just writing to see if he has yet or not?

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He's from POG, you have to get at the back of the line, so it could take a while.

kidding, kidding.

[metsandfinsfan]

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wow thx for the news ... nobody on this board knew about this

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Blow me.

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it's been awhile since you replied.. just writing to see if he has yet or not?

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He's from POG, you have to get at the back of the line, so it could take a while.

kidding, kidding.

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let's change the topic .. im finding this conversation a little hard to swallow /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[DavidC]

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I don't actually mind these threads, because I'm pretty forgetful, but meh, why not just bump the last one every wednesday or something?

[Benjamin]

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I don't actually mind these threads, because I'm pretty forgetful, but meh, why not just bump the last one every wednesday or something?

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Bump. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[headofmike]

I play on wpx exchange now. I'm really only just above break even at 1/2 when multi tabling on here. The play is crazy and stupid and high varience. but luckily I don't really need to win to make 2000 this month playing 1/2 holdem. Although this thread is pretty annoying. Ben you clearly work for the site.

[checkmate36]

Why no epassporte at wpex??? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Pokeraddict]

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Why no epassporte at wpex??? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Because it is a sportsbook and epass does not do business with sportsbooks.

[Soundwave]

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I play on wpx exchange now. I'm really only just above break even at 1/2 when multi tabling on here. The play is crazy and stupid and high varience. but luckily I don't really need to win to make 2000 this month playing 1/2 holdem. Although this thread is pretty annoying. Ben you clearly work for the site.

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Agreed. There's a lot of weird play on the limit tables especially, especially from the blinds. But once you get used to it, WPEX can be a pretty profitable site in my experience, the rakeback is pretty awesome and there are a number of bad players on the site - it's just that there are few loose passive fish (although there is a lot of preflop limping at some 6 max levels for some reason) and a lot of weird over-aggressive TAG/LAGs.

[Benjamin]

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I play on wpx exchange now. I'm really only just above break even at 1/2 when multi tabling on here. The play is crazy and stupid and high varience. but luckily I don't really need to win to make 2000 this month playing 1/2 holdem.

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I'm glad that you are playing the site. The more the merrier.


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Although this thread is pretty annoying.

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One thread, bumped once a week, in the appropriate forum, is annoying? Touchy!

There are 2 threads each on the front page of this forum for UB, Party, and Full Tilt. Does that annoy you? Are you going to post in those people's threads and tell them that they annoy you?

I really don't understand the constant comments in this thread about how it's annoying or irritating.


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Ben you clearly work for the site.

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They have paid me every week for a year now, amounting to $32k for part-time 1 and 2 tabling + Aces Never Lose bonuses. But, I do not officially work for them. I guess you could call me a volunteer publicist if you wanted.

As a player who relies on poker for income, and who has repetitive stress injury which keeps me from being a multi-tabling machine on Stars, I find that the rakeback and bonus at WPEX is the best thing since sliced bread. I really really really want it to grow so I have more game selection, and so the 100% rakeback promotion is not discontinued for lack of success.

If such obvious self interest is not enough, in your mind, to justify a minute of time promoting the site every week, then you are welcome to continue considering me an employee, but you will be incorrect.

[Bobo Fett]

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I really don't understand the constant comments in this thread about how it's annoying or irritating.

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I can see how you might not agree, but how can you NOT understand it? It's quite simple...you are bumping the exact same thread about the exact same bonus every week. Some of the regulars here probably get tired of seeing it. There are lots of monthly/constant bonuses that have been going on for a long time, and they don't get bumped here every week. In addition, people likely still remember all of the wankers that kept starting new threads in the Zoo every day about WPEX, until MH put a stop to that with the *Official* thread.

That being said, I found this annoying the first couple of weeks, but I no longer do. At the time, I feared that it was going to be bumped every second day with condescending "how can anyone with brains NOT play here" comments that were always a hallmark of WPEX threads of the past. Instead, it is usually bumped once a week, generally on Wednesdays. Benjamin seems to be our resident bumper, and does so without much hype. Let it go, I finally did. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Benjamin]

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how can you NOT understand it? It's quite simple...you are bumping the exact same thread about the exact same bonus every week. Some of the regulars here probably get tired of seeing it. There are lots of monthly/constant bonuses that have been going on for a long time, and they don't get bumped here every week. In addition, people likely still remember all of the wankers that kept starting new threads in the Zoo every day about WPEX, until MH put a stop to that with the *Official* thread.

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Weellll, when you put it like that ... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I wouldn't bump it even once a if there weren't so many constant threads about the bigger sites.

Enough people have expressed thanks for the reminder that I think it is a useful service and I plan to continue it unless someone convinces a mod that it needs to stop.

[Bobo Fett]

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Enough people have expressed thanks for the reminder that I think it is a useful service and I plan to continue it unless someone convinces a mod that it needs to stop.

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Well said.

[rwesty]

I like this thread. Thanks Benjamin.

All new players should play at WPEX, it is clearly the best deal out there at this point.

[HavanaBanana]

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I like this thread. Thanks Benjamin.

All new players should play at WPEX, it is clearly the best deal out there at this point.

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QFT

And most of the haters are affiliate connected, and WSEX is bad news for them.

ToT

[rwesty]

What exactly is this "Prime the Pump" at WSEX this Thursday?

[BigBadBabar]

looks like they're just trying to get numbers of players up

[DarkForceRising]

Hey Ben & other WPX players,

A couple of months ago the WSEX GM mentioned that he was looking into affiliate opportunites. This seemed to be in response to some players calling for a slight reduction in the RB and bonuses, allowing for extra funds to help grow the site. And now in this months thread someone expressed concern that they might pull the plug on 100% RB.

Any thoughts or speculation wrt to all of this?