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Piece of Cake
02-27-2007, 02:46 AM
I was running over this table. I think in the 33/28 range and starting to get some loose floaters. Villian 19/13/1.5 over 200 hands.

Obviously comment on river play and other places I where I may have played it differently. FWIW I usually 3bet this if Im going to play it, especially versus a player with these stats. I was in the midst of losing a 100bb pot with AA at another table - That's probably why I didn't cbet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($116.50)
Button ($48.20)
SB ($70.05)
Hero ($91.10)
UTG ($48.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4.

Turn: ($12.25) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, MP calls $10.

River: ($32.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $100.5</font>, Hero ????

Piece of Cake
02-27-2007, 03:19 AM
The only thing I beat here are 44 and a bluff (Missed Ac). There's a huge range of hands that beat me and can realistically make this bet. So this appears a clear fold. Should I have played this differently in earlier streets. Should I have checked the river to increase villians range to include more missed club bluffs?

Genz
02-27-2007, 03:26 AM
I check/call this river. A busted draw won't call a third bet. You can't really call a raise on this very coordinated board. So I don't think that bet can make you money.
I don't call here.

Hoffma
02-27-2007, 03:30 AM
Yeah, I agree you should've reraised preflop. I like the rest of your line until the river. If he calls the flop and turn, I figure I'm beat and c/f if he pushes. You can probably c/c otherwise.

Brian O'Nolan
02-27-2007, 03:42 AM
I would expect villain would:
A) raise a small flush (really, any non-nut flush) on the flop or turn, because another club is gonna be scary.
B) raise the nut flush on the flop or turn, because it's gonna be hard to get a lot of value on a 4 flush board.

Raising this river with a straight/set/2 pr would be really weird too, you could easily have a flush.

But, that said, this is 50NL, and just because someone has TAG stats pf doesn't mean they play well, or even necessarily logically postflop. Soooo I say fold river unless you've seen this guy make a similar bluff before, because very few 19/13 types are making big bluffs in deep pots.

Also, why would you 3bet this OOP at 50NL? You're not deep enough to be able to call a 4bet.

T-Bone98
02-27-2007, 03:46 AM
I would fold here. The price is too high. But I really dont know if I would reraise this hand preflop.