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jrbutercup
01-03-2006, 07:33 PM
What would your stat line look like if you followed this chart to a T??? VPIP, Preflop Raise, Etc....

http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/c/jccuneo/preflop.pdf

smoove
01-03-2006, 08:02 PM
Sheesh, I don't know. 15/7, 16/8 something like that?

Twilight
01-03-2006, 08:03 PM
Well it would depend on many things. What levels you play at, how loose or agressive your opponents are and so on. If you follow the tight chart at 0.5/1 to to the letter you'll probably end up at somewhere around 16-17 vpip with a 6-7% pfr.

However most people who follow this chart will missplay a lot of their hands.

common mistakes:
-failing to defend their blinds properly (the chart doesn't tell you how)
-failing to steal the blinds properly. By following the chart you'll end up around 12% blind steal when the optimal number is closer to 30-40.
-failing to adjust to play when hands are getting more shorthanded (such as when 4 people folding and you are first to act)

By making the proper adjustments your vpip and pfr will rise higher depending on the agression and tightness of the tables you play at.

wray
01-03-2006, 08:34 PM
That tight chart looks like 19/6 or so. I would drop a few of the weaker "call" hands unless there were other limpers and change everything else to raises.

bigsooner
01-04-2006, 01:04 AM
Waht if we made these ajdustments for number of players (also slightly tighter that loose version)

$5-$10 Limit Hold-‘Em Party Poker Pre-Flop action

Absentis extremus
(Loose Raiser)

Late
Button, (+1)

NO RAISE
No callers

Raise: AA-77
AKs-A2s, AK-A9
KQs-K9s, KQ-KT
QJs-T9s, QJ


1-2 Callers
Raise: AA-99
AKs-ATs, AK-AJ
KQs-KTs, KQ

Call: 88-77
A9s-A8s,
K9s, KJ
QJs-Q9s, QJ
JTs-89s



3 or more callers

Raise: AA-JJ
AKs-A8s, AK-AQ
KQs-KTs, KQ

Call: TT-22
AXs, AJ
K9s-K7s, KJ
QJs-Q8s, QJ
JTs-65s
J9s-97s



RAISE

No Callers
Raise: AA-QQ
AKs, AK
(JJ-99, AQs-AJs, KQs)

1, 2 Callers
Raise: AA-QQ
AKs- AK
(AQs-AJs, KQs)


Call: JJ-22
AQs, KQs



3 or more Callers

Raise: AA-QQ
AKs-AJs, AK

Call: JJ-22
ATs-A2s, AQ
KQs
QJs-65s


RAISE & RERAISE

Raise: AA-KK
(QQ-JJ, AKs-AQs)


Call: QQ, AKs




Middle
(+2)- (+4)



NO RAISE

No callers


Raise: AA-TT
AKs-A9s, AK-AJ
KQs-KJs, KQ
QJs

Call: 99-77
A8s-A7s
KTs-KJ
JTs-T9s



1-2 Callers

Raise: AA-TT
AKs-ATs, AK-AJ
KQs-KJs, KQ


Call: 99-22
A9s-A8s,
KTs, KJ
QJs-Q9s,
JTs-T9s



3 or more callers
Raise: AA-JJ
AKs-AJs, AK-AQ
KQs-KJs, KQ


Call: TT-22
AXs, AJ
KTs-K7s,
QJs-Q9s,
JTs-65s
J9s-97s




RAISE
No Callers
Raise: AA-QQ
AKs, AK
(JJ-99, AQs-AJs, KQs)

1, 2 Callers
Raise: AA-QQ
AKs- AK
(AQs-AJs, KQs)


Call: JJ-22
AQs, KQs



3 or more Callers
Raise: AA-QQ
AKs-AJs, AK


Call: JJ-22
ATs-A2s, AQ
KQs
QJs-65s






Early
(+5)- (+7)

NO RAISE

Raise: AA-JJ
AKs-AQs, AK-AQ
KQs, KQ

Call: TT-88
AJs-A8s, AJ
QJs-Q9s,
JTs-98s
J9s

RAISE
Raise: AA-QQ
AKs, AK
(JJ, AQs, AQ)