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Supwithbates
02-24-2007, 06:15 AM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($13.95)
Button ($7.90)
SB ($3.20)
Hero ($14.50)
UTG ($34.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.35) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, UTG calls $0.30, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, Hero ???


Button is a 61/20/1
UTG is a 58/0/.5

I can put them both on hands I beat, but is it really going to work out that way that I'm ahead of them both even 1/4 the time?

Genz
02-24-2007, 06:24 AM
UTG looks like he redecided against slowplaying after the raises. His stack is huge and his stats are horrible. So he probably is on a suck-out spree. Button is basically all-in. They can't both have a K and there is no straight possible. It's a little difficult. Both players just called. So especially Button has not a better kicker than you. UTG is very loose but is still more likely than not to have a worse kicker than you. And he will call with any K preflop with these stats. You haven't invested too much here, but you are risking getting stacked. OTOH you can try to win a nice sidepot from UTG if he has the weaker hand. But his stats imply that he isn't the one with the stupid draw. I don't know. I think in the game, I push. But it's probably close and it's not a mistake to get away from this hand. I'd like to know the results. PM me or post them in the thread after others have worked on it. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Supwithbates
02-24-2007, 06:31 AM
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hero: 32.354% 27.79% 04.57% 3169570457 520687104.83 { KcTc }
Button: 27.877% 24.34% 03.54% 2776290737 403381211.33 { AA, 99, KJs-K2s, QhJh, KJo-K6o }
UTG: 39.769% 36.28% 03.49% 4138074382 398040141.83 { 99+, AKs, K2s+, AKo, K7o+ }

These are the ranges I'm assigning them based on looking back at their PT stats and the histories I had available at the time.
Button is a donkey and probably will stack off lite. UTG can stack off lite but he's so passive that it's hard to get a pot that's big enough for him to do that.

I may be adding AA to Button's limping range in wishful thinking, same with TT-QQ on UTG. I think he's capable of stacking off here with those hands but maybe not 3handed or given this action, and he might not be raising here with them either. Then again, if he senses its all going in anyways...
The HH with results is posted in the microbrew thread on the last page, if you're interested in seeing them.

Hoffma
02-24-2007, 06:57 AM
Button is already stacked (he's leaving 80 cents behind) and I would not expect to have much fold equity against UTG. I am getting out of the way here more often than pushing. Feels kind of weak, but pushing seems really high variance against two loose passive opponents who are eager to get it in with you, especially when one guy has you covered.