A few mediocre hands at 10NL [Archive] - Two Plus Two Newer Archives

wackybrak

02-23-2007, 04:23 PM

I decided to post a few hands where the correct plays were less obvious to me... thanks for looking.

HAND ONE

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($5.85)
Hero ($4.21)
SB ($10.64)
BB ($4.27)
UTG ($11.92)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20, UTG folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($0.62) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.65.

Turn: ($2.62) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $2.96, BB calls $1.46.

River: ($8.54) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $8.54

I see KJ, JT here so much it's not even funny. Which leads me into..

HAND TWO

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UTG ($5.52)
Hero ($5.46)
CO ($6)
Button ($5.40)
SB ($2.47)
BB ($10.97)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.05.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, CO (poster) calls $0.15, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds.

Flop: ($0.67) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.35, CO raises to $0.7, Button folds, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $1.30.

Turn: ($4.67) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.26 (All-In), CO calls $3.26.

River: ($11.19) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $11.19

HAND 3

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Hero ($5.70)
UTG ($10.45)
Button ($5.15)
SB ($22.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.4, Button calls $0.30, SB folds.

Flop: ($0.90) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.4, Button raises to $0.8, Hero raises to $5.3, Button calls $3.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($10.95) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($10.95) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $10.95

I know the flop push was horrible, but I had no idea what to do in this spot. I realize folding is a very viable option but I wasn't quite sure how to handle the minraise. Do you fold to the minraise on the flop or what?

Hand 4

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SB ($3.57)
BB ($21.25)
UTG ($9.86)
MP ($9.93)
CO ($6.50)
Hero ($3.18)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.2, 1 fold, BB calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.62) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, CO raises to $6.3, Hero calls $0.98 (All-In).

Turn: ($9.90) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.90) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $9.90

Again, see a lot of weak aces or even KQ in this spot.

thanks for the feedback

Dave I

02-23-2007, 04:48 PM

Do you have reads?

I think #1 is fine.

#2 is ok.

#3 stinks, call the min-raise, try to get a cheap showdown or fold to further aggression.

#4 - reload. Fine as played, you can't fold to his push.

The thing is, the players at this level simply can't bet. They bet too little with their big hands. They go too far with marginal ones, they min-raise when obv draws are out. They make nonsensical bluffs.

But, for the most part they are either way too passive or way too aggressive. So, just adjust accordingly. A pair is almost never good when the passive ones come alive and TPTK is usually OK to felt against the overly-aggressive ones. Your job is to figure out who is who.

BevillTheDevil

02-23-2007, 05:03 PM

any reads would help...

1. the board is drawy, "I see KJ, JT here so much it's not even funny" true so i just try to get it in on the flop.
2. looks pretty Standard
3. raise more pre...Yea id just call the minraise then look to keep the pot small on the turn and river
4. board too drawy to just call, folding seems too weak tight IMO and raising the flop you have to call a push so looks good to me.

I tend to overplay TPTK so my advice might not be too great haha but i learned that at 5/10NL TPTK is usually the nutz cause villians are almost always gettin all in with any TP and often midpairs

The biggest problem i see is your bettin sizes...make them 2/3-PSB and pre 4BB+1 for each limper