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harmless27os
02-23-2007, 01:50 PM
Hi. I was wondering if i played this hand to passive. Any raise I would have run into I would have to think flush or straight. But I might have left some value on the road by just calling down. Had just joined the table no reads.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $13.65
SB: $28.65
BB: $26.35
UTG: $12.85
Hero (MP): $65.50
CO: $28.55

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.45, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.30, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, CO calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($5.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif [T/images/graemlins/heart.gif] ($5.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $0.30</font>, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

<font color="black">River:</font> A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif [7/images/graemlins/spade.gif] ($6.15, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $3.30</font>, Hero calls $3.30, CO folds

<font color="black">Results:</font>
BTN had 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and won $12.15
Final Pot: $12.15 ($0.60 rake)
Zagga
02-23-2007, 01:55 PM
Why no c-bet?
AceLuby
02-23-2007, 02:01 PM
Bet the flop, ~$4 should be good
Bet the turn, 1/2-3/4 pot
River is ok, but I lead this almost always

Don't post results
Yes, this is too passive

Remember the key to LAG/TAG is the AG (aggressive). Passivity loses $$$ in the long run.
harmless27os
02-23-2007, 02:04 PM
You c-bet 10 10 into 2 ppl, who called a 5 BB preflop raise, with 2 overs on the board? Isnt that money thrown out of the window 9 out of 10 times?? I mean I cant expect to hit my set on turn.
Imrahil
02-23-2007, 02:06 PM
I never cbet this board. I may raise the turn as I don't think any of them have the flush. River is fine.
VPIP100
02-23-2007, 02:06 PM
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You c-bet 10 10 into 2 ppl, who called a 5 BB preflop raise, with 2 overs on the board? Isnt that money thrown out of the window 9 out of 10 times?? I mean I cant expect to hit my set on turn.

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You shouldn't play your cards, you should play what they think you have and know what they have. And correctly use it against them.

Btw, NL60?
Zagga
02-23-2007, 02:08 PM
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You c-bet 10 10 into 2 ppl, who called a 5 BB preflop raise, with 2 overs on the board? Isnt that money thrown out of the window 9 out of 10 times?? I mean I cant expect to hit my set on turn.

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Actually it will win you the pot 4/5 times right there. Always renember that any scarecard for you might very well be one for them too.
AceLuby
02-23-2007, 02:10 PM
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You c-bet 10 10 into 2 ppl, who called a 5 BB preflop raise, with 2 overs on the board? Isnt that money thrown out of the window 9 out of 10 times?? I mean I cant expect to hit my set on turn.

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No, but do they know that you don't have AK? If you get called you can slow down on the turn if you don't spike your ten, if you get raised you can easily let go of the hand and know that you're beat. What's the point of the raise PF if you aren't going to throw a c-bet out there? Hope for all unders (~55% of the time) or spike your set (~1:10), but yeah, throw a bet out there and see what happens.
harmless27os
02-23-2007, 02:14 PM
Yeah. I guess I played it to scared.

What if I get called and dont hit my set on the turn. Do u check fold?
Tiki
02-23-2007, 02:34 PM
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Why no c-bet?

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1)2 opponents
2)wet flop
3)our hand has showdown value but insufficient value to build a big pot on this board OOP
4)checking avoids a possible c/r
5)c-betting 100% is a bad idea
6)checking maximizes the chance of a second best hand putting $$ into the pot (esp. w/over-aggro villains).

As played, lead the turn for 3/4pot in case a 4th heart kills your action or scares you from extracting full-value for your hand or outdraws you.

Bet river 3/4 pot as your hand is under-repped and the turn action doesn't look like the 3rd heart hit anyone.