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Cpaz

02-23-2007, 03:46 AM

These are hands from a losing session.
Any thought? Let me have it.

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Hero ($67.20)
BB ($60.70)
UTG ($59)
MP ($24.65)
CO ($25.35)
Button ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB raises to $7, Hero raises to $18.75, BB raises to $59.7, Hero calls $40.95.

Turn: ($121.40) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($121.40) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $121.40

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Hero ($49.75)
UTG ($77.60)
MP ($26.75)
Button ($50.35)
SB ($55.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Button raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $4.5, SB folds, Hero raises to $10, Button calls $5.50.

Turn: ($26) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $37.75 (All-In), Button calls $37.75.

River: ($101.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $101.50

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UTG ($48.30)
MP ($53.80)
CO ($51.05)
Button ($49.50)
Hero ($45)
BB ($50.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button raises to $23, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $44.50

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Hero ($62.15)
MP ($43.10)
Button ($53.50)
SB ($55.30)
BB ($44.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7.

River: ($24.25) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18.5, BB raises to $32.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $75.25

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Button ($49.95)
Hero ($58.10)
BB ($45.25)
UTG ($66.10)
MP ($64.55)
CO ($21.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($5.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, CO raises to $19.15, Hero calls $15.65.

Turn: ($43.80) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($43.80) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $43.80

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SB ($56.95)
BB ($35.90)
UTG ($52.45)
MP ($30.85)
CO ($12.60)
Hero ($53.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $1.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.75) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.75) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $1, Hero raises to $4, MP calls $3.

River: ($13.75) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $8, MP raises to $24.35, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $46.10

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Hero ($96.85)
UTG ($34.05)
MP ($26.55)
Button ($26.40)
SB ($22.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2.

Flop: ($6) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($12) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Final Pot: $20

eigenvalue

02-23-2007, 04:23 AM

Hand 1: I think I would fold here. What hands could he have here to do that? If he has an overpair, you are only a solid favorite to JJ. Against TT it's a race, against KK+ you are way behind. Against most of his likely draws, it's once again only a race (for example T9, 98, AhXh). You are drawing thin against a set. The only other holding except JJ where you are a solid favorite is A9. I don't like your chances here against his range. I think it's a pretty easy fold.

Hand 2: This is an easy fold. You are beaten almost every time and what makes it even more easy to fold here is that improving to a set might give him a straight. So your 2 remaining 5s in the deck may no longer be outs.

Hand 3: Don't reraise with a hand like this OOP. AT belongs to the trap hands. You will find yourself often in situations with reversed implied odds, especially if you have to play that hand OOP. As played, your line on the flop is good. After a raise, you have to CB, after his reraise, you have to fold. Well played here.

Hand 4: I would check-fold the turn.

Hand 5: Another missed flop. Bad luck. But you have to fold to his reraise. It seems that you are chasing / overplaying missed flops way to much!

Hand 6: I never bluff in the micro stakes! But if you want to run a semi-bluff here, reraise a little more, maybe to $6. After he calls this bet, you know you are beaten. Betting the river again is spewy. Just c/f the river here.

Hand 7: Bad, bad turn and river cards. You are loosing to anything here. If Villain isn't running a bluff, you loose. So it's a call if you think he bluffs at least 25% of the time with this bet. I don't think he does and so I would fold.

General advice: Sometimes a session is just terrible. But look back and think about how much money you could have saved by folding in some spots. Every $ you loose (for example by chasing) has to be earned back later. I think I would have had a loosing session too with these bad boards, but I'm sure I would have lost far less money than you. Cutting losses when the dealer doesn't like you is very, very important to become a winning player!

prodonkey

02-23-2007, 06:30 AM

Hand one I might lay down after the check raise on the flop.. I know I would after he 4 bets it though.

Hand 2 wow.. seems kinda like spew.

Hand 3 I'd play the same way sometimes

Hand 4 I hardly ever 3 barrel.. no flush draw on board.. he either has 9T or he has you beat though.

Hand 5 I don't call all in there with his stack size even.. little too much to hope he just has a flush draw with nothing else. $10 sure.. 20 na

Hand 6 I'd prolly raise the flop and see what happens.. i'm going to extend a bluff across 2 streets like that though when he very well could have an ace.

Hand 7 What do you beat? 7's and 8's.. or some donk hand like K5 that's about it.

kbrat

02-23-2007, 08:38 AM

hand 1: please don't play 500bb pots with a single pair. I might even consider folding 66 to his push if villain is decent.

hand 2: Any reads on villain? Against an unknown check/fold flop or raise more

hand 3: I don't mind just as long as you don't always play it like this. maybe 25% rr, 75% fold.

hand 4: again any reads? this is bad against an unknown, check turn and you get to see all cards for the cheapest price.

hand 5: I hate shortstacks, but still fold flop

hand 6: standard float on the flop, bad card hit on the turn check it. As played check the river since he called the turn even if it was a small raise on your part.

hand 7: Not sure what the best line is with PPs and a minraise in front, I considered posting about this a few days ago. RR with 99 pf is fine but rr more please, to 4-5. bet 4 on the flop, turn is fine, don't call on the river. What are you beating? almost any pp and any ace has you beat, the only hands calling a RR pf that you are ahead of are 77-88 and KQ, maybe KJ.

selector2006

02-23-2007, 09:06 AM

Hand 1 (QQ):
Hero raises to $18.75
Hero calls $40.95.

I would just call instead of raise. Probably let it go on the turn. Could have saved yourself $40.

Hand 2 (55):
You are not going to hit the straight too often. So don't push your luck. I would play a little more cautious here. Cald save you $20 at least.

Hand 3 (TAo):
I would not reraise pf. The flop missed you completely, just let it go. That would have saved you $25.

Hand 4 (KQs):
Why bet again on the turn if you have no straight or flush draw and just two overcards? Just wait for a better hand and save yourself $25.

Hand 5 (KAs):
Let it go after the reraise on the flop. It's not your flushdraw. It's not your straightdraw. Save yourself $15

Hand 6 (66):
Your bluf on the turn failed. Don't bluf again on the river.
Save yourself $8.

So, you could have saved yourself $100 (= 280 BB) if you wouldn't chase and bluf so much. I have the same problem as you. I play tight almost all the time. Waiting for the right spot, to get payed off if my 76o hits two pair or a straight. But once in a while I try to catch a straight to get payed off big. But that almost never happens and I lose too much money betting the turn and the river. I think you do the same.

Cpaz

02-23-2007, 01:01 PM

Thanks all for feedback. I'm really usually more taggy than this but many of these hands were against the same villain or at least villains pushing me around. It seemed I was the fish last night. Reviewing these hands now myself is a little embaracing but that's ok. Obviously my reads were off and there was too much emotion involved. The villain on the QQ hand had really been playing me as a WT player and I was out for revenge. (Not good. ) I'm obviously new to NL6. (STT background) Before last night I was up a couple hundred bucks over 4000 hands but last night sort of sunk that.

Again, thanks.