Hourly Rate

[fees]

Playing .1/.25 NL, three tables (very comfortable with 3), where should my hourly be? What's the best possible?

[matrix]

do some math.

whats your PTBB/100?

how many hands do you play on average at each table in an hour (for 6max this ought to be around 60-70)

if we say 60 hands per table per hour and 3 tables thats 180 hands per hour

divide ptbb/100 by 100 multiply by 180

a PTBB is a "big bet" and is twice the big blind of the table so at 25NL a PTBB = $0.50

multiply the answer you got above by $0.50 - thats your hourly rate.

the best possible is $25 per hand (assuming each villain you stack only has 100BB) - [you could argue you could make much more if everyone is very deep when you start but then it gets *really* complicated] times 180 hands = $4500 per hour playing 25NL

the best you're likely to make in the real world is 10PTBB/100 which works out at $9/hour playing 180 hands per hour

[Brian O'Nolan]

6 max is going to be in the 90-100 hand/hr range.

[TNUC]

sick , so you should be able to make minimun wage 4 tabling 25nl pretty easily

[matrix]

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6 max is going to be in the 90-100 hand/hr range.

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depends on the site - Party is fastest.

by the time you factor in the time it takes to open the tables (you aren't just opening the first tables available are you??) you aren't getting much change out of 75 hands per hour per table at most on average I think somewhere like Full Tilt.

YMMV. I like to err on the side of caution.

[early325]

I run 10.16ptbb/100 by playing a fairly solid game (25/12/2) over 15k hands, multiplied by four tables I'm making a little over $20/hr. It's a grind, but it's easy. I'm not gonna move up until I have $2k on stars.

[kbrat]

early325 you should rethink that, waiting til you have 40BIs to move up when your crushing your current limit is a real mistake unless you are depending on your winnings to support yourself, which in itself would be a mistake at 25NL.

My first time around I ran at 8ptbb at 25NL then moved up with 450 as a BR and ran at 10ptbb at 50NL; the games are the same.

move up man...

[fees]

I'm doing about the same as early but on BD, BD is really fast, but max 3 tables, I petitioned them to change this and apparently it's in the works, but until then...

[MightyJohn]

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I run 10.16ptbb/100 by playing a fairly solid game (25/12/2) over 15k hands, multiplied by four tables I'm making a little over $20/hr. It's a grind, but it's easy. I'm not gonna move up until I have $2k on stars.

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15k hands is nothing. Make it 150k and i can take a look on ur hourly rate.

[fees]

MightyJohn, I would contest that, the table is "small", but how much do you think the EV will change? We could do a confidence interval calculation with a little bit more information if he is willing to provide. His number doesn't even seem that unreasonable, don't you think?

[MightyJohn]

I belive the 15k hand sample at 10PTBB winrate, doesnt include any major downswing.So yea it may change a lot after 1000% more hands.

[fees]

Do you mean even keeled? Cards and Cards alone will downswing enough? If he shows us the sessions we can figure it out, this sameple would be plently big using say 95% confidence interval, yes?

[early325]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4532/25nlrn7.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8999/twofivebb9.jpg

[early325]

Oh and FWIW I was a 200NL player before NETELLER shut down. I got all of my money off, and this is a build from $50 a friend sent me.

[syphlix]

yo'ure saying that you dropped down to 6 bucks from the 50 and turned that into 800?... nice...

pretty nice graph... but why bother posting it... if you've played plenty u know charts like that don't last forever...

[AAmucked]

I think those graphs always start at your initial investment, i.e. $0 means $50 in this instance.

[early325]

I mixed in some HU SNGs whenever I dropped below a full BI.

I think the winrate is sustainable for at least 8ptbb/100, 4-tabling. I am certainly not running noticably hot, that's why I believe it's sustainable.

[WarhammerIIC]

.09/hr.
I guess that would be 9 cents/hour at $10NL.

[prodonkey]

I'm at almost $7/hr with a 2.57 table ratio.. $15+ 4-6 tabling should be well within range, plus rb.

[rakes.a.beach]

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Oh and FWIW I was a 200NL player before NETELLER shut down. I got all of my money off, and this is a build from $50 a friend sent me.

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Does that mean you were down to six dollars at one point? Also, you play 100 hands/hour? My win rate is 11bb/100 at the 0.25 over 8.6k hands. PT says my truewin rate is only $15.08/hour.

[early325]

No, whenever I dropped below a full buy-in I played $6 turbo HU SNGs. I get in about 110 hands/hr per table, but I only play four tables.

[fees]

Early the info I actually need is your session notes, I need the standard deviations so I can figure out what happens when we look at a bigger scale. If you are willing of course.

[early325]

yeah i'll post them when i finish the current sessions

[early325]

nm