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QuattroFour4
02-21-2007, 03:40 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($27.20)
Hero ($52.70)
BB ($17.85)
UTG ($58.20)
MP ($82.35)
CO : Villain ($118.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO : Villain raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO : Villain calls $6.

Flop: ($16.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, Villain calls $10.

Turn: ($36.50) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks.

River: ($36.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $22</font>, Hero?

KJatl
02-21-2007, 03:43 PM
In this order: AKs for the nut flush, QQ, maybe KK or AA.

Dave I
02-21-2007, 03:43 PM
Reads? No? Fold, you only beat AKo/total air.

BoozeHound
02-21-2007, 03:58 PM
*Grunching*
With no reads/stats villains calling range of your 3-bet has to be wide from CO
JTs+, AQo+, 66+

After the flop call, all pocket pairs remain, and I think we fold many unpaired connectors and suited connectors that don't have spades.
66+; Js-10s+; JQo; KQo; AQo

After the turn check I think a straight flush draw can be discounted somewhat, and on the river bet it appears to be a value bet, so I'd say
77, 99+; QT, JQ, QK, AQ

Any read as far as passiveness/looseness would really help.

matrix
02-21-2007, 04:53 PM
it's kinda hard to put an unknown at 50NL on any kind of hand.

you're pretty much flat out guessing - and I'd guess he has air here at least as often as he has you beat or has ATo with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif and thinks he just rivered you.

vs an unknown you gotta call here you have often induced a bluff by checking the turn - it looks like you are drawing as well.

He has a big stack as well so it's quite likely he's a gamb000ler who got lucky and thinks he can bully people around. (200BB stacks aren't good players all that often IME)

I'd fold this river to a loose/passive, a nit or a calling station - I'd snap call vs anyone else and expect to see AT/KT/AK with one /images/graemlins/spade.gif often enough to make it nicely profitable thanks very much - the rest of the time he'd have me beat with a set a flush or Qx (where x=paint)

Marshall28
02-21-2007, 04:55 PM
doesnt matter what u put him on, u cant beat anything.

Dave I
02-21-2007, 05:06 PM
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He has a big stack as well so it's quite likely he's a gamb000ler who got lucky and thinks he can bully people around. (200BB stacks aren't good players all that often IME)


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I know what you mean but until I know otherwise I tend to go with big stack = somewhat decent, short stack = terrible. Even though the latter is true more often than the former, I'm willing to give this guy credit here for now. Again assuming we have no read at all.

Jouster777
02-21-2007, 06:08 PM
Grunch

77+, QTs, QJs, QK-QA, x/images/graemlins/spade.gify/images/graemlins/spade.gif, air

Air (incl 2nd pair and worse) is a big part of this. Really sucks that on a flop that we looked to be the favorite the vast majority of the time we are considering folding. But I only call if I know he's the floaty type because the other parts of his range crush us.

fsista
02-21-2007, 06:09 PM
A queen or a flush.