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YKMM
02-21-2007, 08:38 AM
My opponent is 25/10/1.5 in 300 hands. Somewhat passive nitty multi-tabling type. I play 25/20 and am ultra-aggressive postflop, so there is a chance opponent is snapping off a c-bet. I'm not entirely sure if opponent is paying attention though. No history between me and him. Turn overbet screams of betting scared. Opinions?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($64.45)
MP ($18.10)
CO ($51.40)
Hero ($67.60)
SB ($63.20)
BB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $11</font>, Hero calls $5.50.

Turn: ($27.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $50.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $50.95.
VPIP100
02-21-2007, 08:41 AM
I'd shove flop, there are so many turn cards you don't want to see.
YKMM
02-21-2007, 10:13 PM
&lt;Bump&gt;

Any other opinions? I have great trouble believing shoving on the flop is optimal here, it folds Ax, Kx, clubs, maybe even AK.
RAHZero
02-21-2007, 10:20 PM
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&lt;Bump&gt;

Any other opinions? I have great trouble believing shoving on the flop is optimal here, it folds Ax, Kx, clubs, maybe even AK.

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AK is never folding here. That said, shoving the flop may not be optimal, but not 3-betting is terrible. You are way ahead on this flop, you want to get as much money into the pot as possible, while protecting against draws.
CaptUnlucky
02-21-2007, 10:22 PM
AK never folds that flop.

I don't know the player, but I really doubt that a passive nit is limping UTG/ calling/ checkrasing flop with Ax or Kx.
And if he is, there's no reason to say he wont call a flop shove.

Nothing really wrong with getting clubs to fold here, better to have them fold then outdraw you.