kekedarius
02-21-2007, 05:59 AM
A short tidbit on myself first: I've been playing poker since October of last year, and have been a winning player almost every single day since. There's only been two days where I finished in the red. I moved from 25NL, to 50NL, to 100NL, and finally to 200NL where this past Sunday I finally hit my first enourmous downswing. I had made $3000 and it's dwindled down to a pathetic $600. I think my play has been as constant as ever, but I just can't yield a profit. Maybe I'm being overly "results oriented", but I don't care because my results are terrible, and I can't get a grasp as to why. I've moved back down to 50NL and I'm still losing, losing, losing. For example, here's today's hand analysis via PokerOffice:
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1520/profitar5.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profitar5.jpg)
Yesterday wasn't any better, and the day before was even worse. Take notice of how many times I got each hand, and my profits from each. Why are they all so low? This has never happened to me before. I do the standard pot the flop (I actually do a bit less than pot size bet), 3/4 on the turn, 1/2 on the river, and I still can't squeeze any value out of my hands, or I get outdrawn (flopping a flush and running into runner runner quads anyone?). And before anyone says anything about my "high card" value, that's almost entirely cbets getting c/r on the flop and forcing me to fold the hand, or draws completely missing, though I will admit to stacking off 100 bb against a regular with a bluff one time (he flopped the nuts /images/graemlins/frown.gif ). Speaking of which, I'm not entirely grasping cbetting. It works fine for the first few orbits I'm at a table, and then the TAGs start c/ring and reraising any cbet I throw out there, but never when I hit! I've been trying to tell myself it's just varience, but do people really hit ~30 buyin downswings over 10,000 hands? It feels like I should've popped back up by now.
On to my PokerTracker stats when the downswing first started,
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4387/pt1wg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9596/pt2sc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1325/pt3zv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I talked with a couple 2+2ers online, and they basically told me to nit it up and be more cautious. The problem is that I do nit it up and am cautious. I'm really just trying to get someone to tell me either "this is what you need to do differently", or "you're doing fine kid. It's just varience", but I don't know if it's that simple. Outside of overvaluing TP, I'm feeling at a complete loss, and am borderline suicidal. Tell me what I'm doing wrong, 2+2.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1520/profitar5.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profitar5.jpg)
Yesterday wasn't any better, and the day before was even worse. Take notice of how many times I got each hand, and my profits from each. Why are they all so low? This has never happened to me before. I do the standard pot the flop (I actually do a bit less than pot size bet), 3/4 on the turn, 1/2 on the river, and I still can't squeeze any value out of my hands, or I get outdrawn (flopping a flush and running into runner runner quads anyone?). And before anyone says anything about my "high card" value, that's almost entirely cbets getting c/r on the flop and forcing me to fold the hand, or draws completely missing, though I will admit to stacking off 100 bb against a regular with a bluff one time (he flopped the nuts /images/graemlins/frown.gif ). Speaking of which, I'm not entirely grasping cbetting. It works fine for the first few orbits I'm at a table, and then the TAGs start c/ring and reraising any cbet I throw out there, but never when I hit! I've been trying to tell myself it's just varience, but do people really hit ~30 buyin downswings over 10,000 hands? It feels like I should've popped back up by now.
On to my PokerTracker stats when the downswing first started,
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4387/pt1wg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9596/pt2sc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1325/pt3zv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I talked with a couple 2+2ers online, and they basically told me to nit it up and be more cautious. The problem is that I do nit it up and am cautious. I'm really just trying to get someone to tell me either "this is what you need to do differently", or "you're doing fine kid. It's just varience", but I don't know if it's that simple. Outside of overvaluing TP, I'm feeling at a complete loss, and am borderline suicidal. Tell me what I'm doing wrong, 2+2.