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sebbb

02-21-2007, 12:35 AM

Villain is 24/15/3 over 60 hands

Am I overvaluing my set here? any comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($23.50)
CO ($29.05)
Button ($30.85)
SB ($32.65)
Hero ($57.85)
UTG ($42.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, Button calls $3.

Turn: ($11.10) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($25.10) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13.75, Button raises to $18.35, Hero calls $4.60.

Final Pot: $61.80

FalconTi0

02-21-2007, 12:40 AM

i would have bet that flop with the draws out there

sebbb

02-21-2007, 01:47 AM

even if you expect the villain to c-bet the flop most of the time?

FalconTi0

02-21-2007, 01:48 AM

i want to charge draws and get money into the pot since i likely have the best hand

Speedlimits

02-21-2007, 02:16 AM

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Villain is 24/15/3 over 60 hands

Am I overvaluing my set here? any comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($23.50)
CO ($29.05)
Button ($30.85)
SB ($32.65)
Hero ($57.85)
UTG ($42.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, Button calls $3.

Turn: ($11.10) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($25.10) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13.75, Button raises to $18.35, Hero calls $4.60.

Final Pot: $61.80

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3bet here preflop is decent if villian has % to steal >25.
If just calling pf, C/R flop to about $5-6 and lead turn for $8-9

spacetime

02-21-2007, 02:29 AM

I am check raising this flop also, villain is most likely going to cbet anything here, including a draw.

sebbb

02-21-2007, 02:34 AM

ok, but my $4.5 raise is too small?

Hoffma

02-21-2007, 02:36 AM

I think your preflop is fine. I like a CR on the flop too, expecting a c-bet. I would raise to $6.50 however, and if called, lead the turn with a PSB.

spacetime

02-21-2007, 02:40 AM

Its about a pot sized bet, but I would probably make it 5 or so.

Hoffma

02-21-2007, 02:47 AM

spacetime is right. For a CR like this I want to give my opponent close to 2:1 to call, and you can do exactly this by tripling his bet back at him PLUS the existing pot of $2.10. This is ALWAYS the formula to use if you are facing a bet and intend to make a PSB back at him.

Flop pot of $2.1 plus his bet of $1.5 makes it $3.6 with $1.5 for you to call. If you raise it to $1.5 times 3 and add the previous pot of $2.1 to your bet, you are making it $6.6. Villain now must call $5.1 into a $10.2 pot. Now you're offering him 2:1. If he calls, it's a huge mistake unless he has either the nuts, a better set, or a strong draw, i.e. 9 outs or more to a hand that beats your set.

T-Bone98

02-21-2007, 02:51 AM

I like the c/r on the flop but would make a bigger raise. After this turn card I'd lead the turn with a PSB.

orange

02-21-2007, 04:34 AM

Flop play is fine, but I would typically raise a bit larger. I would also bet the turn and call an all in.

There are other lines you can take. Bet/3-bet on the flop is fine. Just don't fold.