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Mal_Pais
02-20-2007, 02:54 PM
I've been fairly active. Shorty in the BB has reraised all-in a few times when I raised preflop. UTG is a station. The price looks right for playing this hand passively. The Button is loose passive and I'd like to get in the hand with him, hence the limp. Comments on all streets (well, except for the river) welcome.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.45
UTG+1: $19.50
Hero: $10.60
Button: $9.25
SB: $8.80
BB: $3.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($0.35, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $0.4</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.55, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $0.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.8</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3.95, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.5</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.5 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $3.95

VPIP100
02-20-2007, 02:55 PM
Raise somewhere, please.

Mal_Pais
02-20-2007, 02:57 PM
Why would I raise the turn??

RollTide77
02-20-2007, 03:02 PM
I was thinking you need to raise PF as well to fish out a AT+ or get heads up with a KX hand. Then if you got a draw to go with it then more power to ya. On the turn you're a little better than 3:1 to get your flush or high pair. You're not getting those pot odds so I would fold the turn.

Mal_Pais
02-20-2007, 03:09 PM
Thanks, Roll. I was wondering whether I should have raised preflop or raised the flop. I have a nice 12-outer, I don't think the A will help me, and I seem to be getting a good price to hang around if BB calls the turn minraise, which I suspect he will. I don't think I have any fold equity with these two, though.

VPIP100
02-20-2007, 03:14 PM
You have a gutshot, 1 over (probably good) and the nutflushdraw.

Raise flop and get it all in there because you are a huge favorite vs 2 limpers and you do have plenty of fold equity.

Also you should have raised it preflop, so when you don't hit you can take it down with a c-bet.

With one over, flushdraw and gutshot you have the odds to call the turn, especially with the implied odds. But you still have BB to act behind you, and he was the first raiser, so when he shoves you have to fold.

Btw. I never said you should raise the turn, raise somewhere /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Mal_Pais
02-20-2007, 03:23 PM
That's the type of analysis I was looking for. The turn call seemed to be a no-brainer, but I'm always open to different lines. I'm stacking UTG if the draw hits; I suspect he has two pair since he just woke up here. I guess I was looking for comments on how to play preflop and the flop here. Thanks.

RollTide77
02-20-2007, 03:35 PM
Ah, yeah. Didn't even see the gutshot. So a little over 2-1 odds.