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Borodog
02-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Much harder. Requires calculus. Not for the faint of heart.
A projectile is fired from the origin at an initial speed v_0 at an angle theta above the horizontal. If the force due to air drag on the projectile is of the form f = -bv, where b is the drag coefficient of the projectile, what is the trajectory of the projectile y(x)? (y is the vertical coordinate, x the horizontal.)
A camera at the origin is to stay pointed toward the projectile throughout its flight and focused on it. At what angle above the horizontal must the camera be pointed (as a function of time)? What is the distance to the projectile as a function of time?
Bonus credit: Include a graph of the trajectory for suitable values, as well as the angle and distance vs. time graphs.
BTW, this problem can be done completely analytically.
holmansf
02-20-2007, 12:31 AM
Assuming the projectile stays low enough that we can approximate the acceleration due to gravity by a constant acceleration, the position function of the projectile satisifes
p''(t) = g - b p'(t)
where g is the acceleration due to gravity.
The general solution to this ODE is:
p(t) = tg/b -c e^{-bt} /b + a.
The initial conditions are p(0) = 0 and p'(0) = (v_0 cos(theta), v_0 sin(theta)). Plugging these in we get
0 = -c/b + a, g/b + c = (v_0 cos(theta), v_0 sin(theta))
implies
c = ba, g/b + ba = (v_0 cos(theta), v_0 sin(theta))
a =(b (v_0 cos(theta), v_0 sin(theta)) - g)/b^2.
So
p(t) = gt/b + (b (v_0 cos(theta), v_0 sin(theta)) - g)/b^2 (1 - e^{-bt})
Setting g = (0,-g_0), you can find all of the required quantities with a little algebra.
Borodog
02-20-2007, 12:54 AM
p''(t) = g - (b/m)p'(t)
thylacine
02-20-2007, 03:46 AM
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No harm done: the advantage of not plugging in numbers.
recipro
02-20-2007, 06:26 AM
I am just curious, but is it normal to use p(t) rather than r(t) for position? I've always used r(t)...
SitNHit
02-20-2007, 08:17 AM
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I am just curious, but is it normal to use p(t) rather than r(t) for position? I've always used r(t)...
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Im so happy i didnt take this class.
holmansf
02-20-2007, 11:23 AM
ah well, doesn't matter much. Replace b by b/m in the solution.
Borodog
02-20-2007, 12:38 PM
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I am just curious, but is it normal to use p(t) rather than r(t) for position? I've always used r(t)...
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r(t) is the more common of the two; p(t) would make me think momentum. x(t) is what I would normally use, however.
Borodog
02-20-2007, 12:40 PM
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ah well, doesn't matter much. Replace b by b/m in the solution.
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True, but you still haven't answered any of the questions. /images/graemlins/wink.gif
holmansf
02-20-2007, 06:30 PM
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True, but you still haven't answered any of the questions.
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The rest is an easy exercise left to the reader. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Right back at ya.
Borodog
02-21-2007, 12:31 AM
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True, but you still haven't answered any of the questions.
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The rest is an easy exercise left to the reader. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Right back at ya.
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Try writing that on the test!
gumpzilla
02-21-2007, 12:34 AM
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True, but you still haven't answered any of the questions.
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The rest is an easy exercise left to the reader. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Right back at ya.
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Try writing that on the test!
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I handed in a knot theory assignment once where I got stuck proving an auxiliary lemma I thought I needed and gave 'er the old "I've discovered a truly marvelous proof, but this margin is too small to contain it." and carried on. It came back with a note scrawled in the margin saying "This counterexample fits."
Borodog
02-21-2007, 12:49 AM
lol. That's awesome.
thylacine
02-21-2007, 01:19 AM
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True, but you still haven't answered any of the questions.
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The rest is an easy exercise left to the reader. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Right back at ya.
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Try writing that on the test!
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This is a poker forum. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
holmansf
02-21-2007, 06:33 PM
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True, but you still haven't answered any of the questions.
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The rest is an easy exercise left to the reader. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Right back at ya.
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Try writing that on the test!
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I was recently grading an analysis assignment and someone wrote that.
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