Weak line with nut flush draw on 3flush flop. [Archive]

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Piece of Cake

02-19-2007, 05:03 PM

Is there any other way to play this? This line seems weak to me.

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saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($51.15)
BB ($50)
UTG ($74.85)
Hero ($74.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.5, BB raises to $5.5, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($15.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($35.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50.25

Results in white below: 
BB doesn't show.
Outcome: BB wins $50.25.

Hank Scorpio

02-19-2007, 05:06 PM

Ya you can fold on the turn.

AceLuby

02-19-2007, 05:07 PM

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Ya you can fold on the turn.

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Nut flush draw + gutshot to a less than pot sized bet? I'm not folding.

Hank Scorpio

02-19-2007, 05:08 PM

You don't even know if you're gutshot is good. All you have is a flush draw with 9 outs, and it could even be less than that if villian has a flush already. You're getting 2.5 to 1 on a 4 to 1 draw. How can you justify calling that?

AceLuby

02-19-2007, 05:13 PM

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You don't even know if you're gutshot is good. All you have is a flush draw with 9 outs, and it could even be less than that if villian has a flush already. You're getting 2.5 to 1 on a 4 to 1 draw. How can you justify calling that?

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You can't discount that he doesn't have a flush either, in which case our str8 draw is good. Assuming he flopped the flush is ridiculous. We don't even have any reads...

AAmucked

02-19-2007, 05:28 PM

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You don't even know if you're gutshot is good. All you have is a flush draw with 9 outs, and it could even be less than that if villian has a flush already. You're getting 2.5 to 1 on a 4 to 1 draw. How can you justify calling that?

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You can justify calling that if you'll get paid off on the river, normally you need a read to do so.

Hank Scorpio

02-19-2007, 06:05 PM

I still think it's a terrible play. If another club hits, villian will not pay you off unless it's the second highest club IMO. The only implied odds you have are associated with your straight then, which won't hit enough to make this play good. Fold the turn.