NL50 Video #4

[jonyy6788]

2 tables, Stars, NL50 6max....54 mins. long, umm not a whole heck of a lot went on, but still useful to listen to me run my mouth if you are learning the game.

Only 57MB

Link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MPN57BHC)

PREVIOUS VIDEOS:
Video 1 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=microplnl&Number=8270343& fpart=&PHPSESSID=)

Video 2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=microplnl&Number=8641123& Searchpage=1&Main=8641123&Words=video+jonyy6788&to pic=&Search=true#Post8641123)

Video 3, no audio (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M3OKW3AU)

[Vyse]

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[RAHZero]

Works fine for me, sometimes you have to try clicking the links a couple times. Downloading now.

[thing85]

jonyy,

What stats are you using in your HUD?

[jonyy6788]

VPIP PFR
AGG Hands
Fold C-bet, Call C-bet

[rzweig]

haha i was watching the video for like 2 min. before i realized im sitting directly to your right on the left table. on the hand where you made the flush with AJ i had 10's

I wouldnt have sat to your right had i known who you were.

[thing85]

What are your typical stats?

[thing85]

Also, how are your bets auto-sized? Do you have a 3rd party program that does it or am I an idiot?

For example, the raise button was automatically $2.5 with one limper PF. I usually have to manually enter $2.50 because the default is the min-raise.

[jonyy6788]

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haha i was watching the video for like 2 min. before i realized im sitting directly to your right on the left table. on the hand where you made the flush with AJ i had 10's

I wouldnt have sat to your right had i known who you were.

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Yea I could tell you weren't happy when you instamucked...turn 10 woulda been sweet

[jonyy6788]

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What are your typical stats?

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Around 18/16 usually...it's all table dependent and how many tables I'm playing

[jonyy6788]

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Also, how are your bets auto-sized? Do you have a 3rd party program that does it or am I an idiot?

For example, the raise button was automatically $2.5 with one limper PF. I usually have to manually enter $2.50 because the default is the min-raise.

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Link to monsterous post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7689218&page=0&fpart=1&v c=1)

It's all automatic....if you're on Stars there's no reason not to use it. You have to download a program and then download the "script"

[thing85]

Thanks, I appreciate it. This will help a lot.

[CharlieDontSurf]

yeah on the AJ hand I had pocket 8s. I think I only did that once against u but against Stella I did it 2 or 3 times with small PP that whiffed on the flop...the last time I actually hit something but Stella was too much of a nit.

[jonyy6788]

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yeah on the AJ hand I had pocket 8s. I think I only did that once against u but against Stella I did it 2 or 3 times with small PP that whiffed on the flop...the last time I actually hit something but Stella was too much of a nit.

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you play weird

[thing85]

Just finished watching the video - pretty good. I'm a semi-new NL player (only about 15k hands under my belt) and I've never watched a poker video before, so it was pretty informative to see how someone else plays with the thought process being spoken out loud.

Random question - what's your completing range in the SB? I saw you fold K9s in the SB with one limper and it made me think that maybe I'm too loose with my SB completions.

[jonyy6788]

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Just finished watching the video - pretty good. I'm a semi-new NL player (only about 15k hands under my belt) and I've never watched a poker video before, so it was pretty informative to see how someone else plays with the thought process being spoken out loud.

Random question - what's your completing range in the SB? I saw you fold K9s in the SB with one limper and it made me think that maybe I'm too loose with my SB completions.

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Pretty much nothing, there's not much value in it. You're OOP and tryin to play OOP is like turning your hand face up. I'll play some suited aces, facecards, PP's obv

[marvin_1935]

watched the video and paused to make comments as the action unfolded:

1st hand, 5 to you in the sb w/ 99. we agree he most likely has garbage here. i like to push here.

6:40 K2s in sb, getting 7:1 immediate odds. i'm calling, espcially w/ 2 maniacs in

8:20 hard for a Q to call 7 into a 7.5 pot on the river when the flush gets there. i make it like 3-4.

15:00 nice resteal w/ T9o

18:45 PLEASE don't play TT for set value vs maniac (reraise pf). c/r his weak flop bet.

21:00 hate the turn check w/ kk. you're missing out on value vs Tx and lower pps, as well as letting hearts draw for free. man, 13.5 . . . . man, you've really under represented your hand, but i cant fault you for folding. . .

28~ just noticed you're playing w/ 4 nits and 1 maniac. is this EV+?

33:00 lol at 55 hand! love these free showdowns!

34:20 TT on QQ7 rainbow flop 3-way. this is cbet time. you say he's full of it . . . i agree, go with you read and c/r!

36:50 K9s on worth a complete 3 way w/ tard on button?


well played and narrated, i think you missed out on some value in a couple places, but overall solid. nice video!

[marvin_1935]

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yeah on the AJ hand I had pocket 8s. I think I only did that once against u but against Stella I did it 2 or 3 times with small PP that whiffed on the flop...the last time I actually hit something but Stella was too much of a nit.

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you play weird

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i think 88 is a 3bet hand most of the time vs tags, but other than that i think he played it rather optimally, no?

[corsakh]

Test.

[jonyy6788]

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yeah on the AJ hand I had pocket 8s. I think I only did that once against u but against Stella I did it 2 or 3 times with small PP that whiffed on the flop...the last time I actually hit something but Stella was too much of a nit.

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you play weird

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i think 88 is a 3bet hand most of the time vs tags, but other than that i think he played it rather optimally, no?

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Nobody at NL50 is 3-betting 88 and it's generally not good practice. Committing a bunch of money on a complete bluff after I raised in early position is pretty silly. Generally raising the flop is much less EV than calling the flop. Straightforward players at these stakes will check the turn if they don't have anything and then you can make a small bet on the turn to have them fold. He just got lucky that I saw him as nitty, other players would not have folded AJ there......

[marvin_1935]

3betting 88 otb is good when over cards are a large part of an ep raiser's range. there are lots of solid NL50 players that do. it's not a bluff. any decent player knows a tag is cbetting that j34 or whatever flop w/ anything he raised pf. after he calls 88 pf, raising the flop IS optimal. why give AK a free shot at 6 outs? it puts TT/99 in a tough spot. [ QUOTE ]
He just got lucky that I saw him as nitty, other players would not have folded AJ there......

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actually i think it's a good play because he saw YOU as being nitty and used his positional edge to take the pot away from you

[jww9618]

What modification do you have to make for the Bet Pot AHK to auto put in your bet for you? For example, 4xBB +1/limper?

[thac]

You can use the scroll wheel to raise it up to 4x

[thing85]

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You can use the scroll wheel to raise it up to 4x

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Right, but how do you get the amount to be automated?

[jww9618]

I currently use the mouse wheel to scroll and the mouse button and right button to bet 3/4 pot and pot. I am curious how to automate it.

[jww9618]

Also, jonyy6788, what are your auto rate rules? Are they default or did you come up with them? I would really appreciate you sharing them with me. I have been looking for a good set. Thanks.

[thac]

Ok, open your BetPot script in Notepad, and where it says ;---------Start of hotkey setup-----------

You can put your hotkeys for the auto-bet function. I can post mine and you can change however you like.

Up::
Pot(getid(),"1", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return

Left::
Pot(getid(),"0.75", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return

Right::
Pot(getid(),"0.66", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return

Down::
Pot(getid(),"0.5", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return


The decimal is the amount of the pot you want, and the keys at the top can be changed to whatever key you want on the keyboard, I use the aarow keys because I'm left handed and my right hand is always close to them. If I press Up it goes to 4bbs preflop, I'm not sure about limpers. I think it calculates it right though.

[jonyy6788]

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I currently use the mouse wheel to scroll and the mouse button and right button to bet 3/4 pot and pot. I am curious how to automate it.

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I edited the script so that right-click is pot preflop and then 3/4 pot from there on out.

[jww9618]

Thanks thac and jonyy for your help.

jonyy.... any comment on your auto rate rules?

[jonyy6788]

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Thanks thac and jonyy for your help.

jonyy.... any comment on your auto rate rules?

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ya, ive been tryin for like 5mins. to post them, school internet is being ghey

Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:N
ARI_3 1 X-Loose (Vp$iP 63%+)
1 5 63.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 63.00 and 99.00
ARI_12 2 Calling Station
15 5 0.01 1.65 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.65
3 5 33.00 99.00 Went To Showdown % is between 33.00 and 99.00
1 1 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 33.00
ARI_4 3 Showdown Muppet
4 5 1.00 33.00 Won $ At Showdown % is between 1.00 and 33.00
3 1 20.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than 20.00
ARI_7 4 Ultra-Aggressor
16 2 2.75 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.75
17 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than or equal to 2.00
18 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - River is greater than or equal to 2.00
ARI_6 5 WT (Weak Tight)
3 5 1.00 14.00 Went To Showdown % is between 1.00 and 14.00
ARI_8 6 sLA
1 5 33.00 46.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 33.00 and 46.00
16 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.00
18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor - River is greater than 0.10
17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than 0.10
ARI_10 7 LA
1 5 46.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 46.00 and 99.00
16 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.00
18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor - River is greater than 0.10
17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than 0.10
ARI_15 8 TA
1 3 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 33.00
16 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Flop is greater than or equal to 2.00
18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor - River is greater than 0.10
17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor - Turn is greater than 0.10
ARI_2 9 Fishy (LP)
1 5 46.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 46.00 and 99.00
15 5 0.01 1.65 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.65
ARI_9 10 TP (Rock)
1 3 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 33.00
15 5 0.01 1.30 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.30
ARI_13 11 sLP
15 5 0.01 1.65 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.01 and 1.65
1 5 33.00 46.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 33.00 and 46.00
ARI_5 0 T N/unknown
1 3 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 33.00
ARI_11 0 sL N/unknown
1 5 33.00 46.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 33.00 and 46.00
ARI_14 0 L N/unknown
1 5 46.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 46.00 and 99.00
Autorate Rules End

[jww9618]

How do I import these into PT. I saved it to notepad and then tried to import but PT didn't show any values for each category. Any help is appreciated.

[jonyy6788]

no idea

[jww9618]

Nevermind, I found similar rules and they imported. Thanks for all your help. The video is very good. I haven't seen many quality videos of $50NL. Keep it up.