See ya later Limit.

[JoshuaD]

So I'm still getting this [censored] kicked outa me in limit. Been over a month now, and I'm a loser over 8billion hands.

I moved down to 2/4 after dropping 300BB's at 5/10 6m, and I'm break even here after a whopping 5k hands.

Goodbye limit, Hello no limit.

[jba]

let me know how that goes, I might join you. i'm playing 3/6 now and getting my ass handed to me.

[ImTilting]

Full table limit is so hard to make money at because someone will always outdraw you.

[JoshuaD]

[ QUOTE ]
Full table limit is so hard to make money at because someone will always outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]

o rlly

[neverforgetlol]

that statement is logically impossible.

[PoBoy321]

I really don't get why anyone would EVER play limit poker.

[JoshuaD]

[ QUOTE ]
I really don't get why anyone would EVER play limit poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

I ran pretty normalized for 10 months. That was hot.

[neverforgetlol]

you play more hands, and more streets on those hands.

[JoshuaD]

Now with graph action:

Big Bets Graph:
http://joshman.ath.cx:81/bigbets.png

$$ Graph:
http://joshman.ath.cx:81/cash.png

[jba]

these look pretty good dude.

honestly I think the fact that you were spared so much so early is crushing you know. this isn't that bad.

actually this is great.

[JoshuaD]

[ QUOTE ]
honestly I think the fact that you were spared so much so early is crushing you now.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is definitely true.

I may not stay at NL forever, but I need to do something fresh. I'm living off my poker income and I'm going to have a heart attack if I have another red month.

I've got savings for these sorts of things, but I really don't like going into them.

[uncleshady]

Hey JoshuaD, I may be a relative n00b in terms of post count, but I have been switching from limit to NL for a few months now. When I run bad or amd just losing in limit I cross over to NL 50 or NL 100 6 max. Its saved me from any kind of prolonged downswing every time. I think it helps my focus knowing I could dump my stack on any hand so I have to be more careful. Good luck, I suspect this will work well for you.

[jason_t]

So it looks like you hit your first ever downswing (lucky [censored]) which coincides with when you stopped posting in SS etc.

[Ness]

[ QUOTE ]
I really don't get why anyone would EVER play limit poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

I find a lot of people that play limit poker even up to 10/20 and 15/30--particularly shorthanded--just don't get it. In fact, I was railbirding the 100 game on PP today and it was a total joke--if I had the bankroll to justify taking a shot it would have been sooooooo worth it.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

[ QUOTE ]

I find a lot of people that play limit poker even up to 10/20 and 15/30--

[/ QUOTE ]

Appx. 40% of the players at 15/30 are very bad. But the remaining 60% are from ok to very, very good; so you need to know how to play (in excess of playing fish) to win.

EDIT: And if you do not have the bankroll, you probably aren't good enough, as it quick to aquire at lower limits for anyone good enough to win there. Not being a dick here, but beating it is tougher than it looks. OTOH, it is not rocket science and easy for anyone who is good at poker.

[JoshuaD]

[ QUOTE ]
So it looks like you hit your first ever downswing (lucky [censored]) which coincides with when you stopped posting in SS etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

I feel like I don't have a home here anymore. I try to post in SSSH, but it's hard to keep intrested in posting when there's no one arguing with you.

I miss old school SS, that forum was so fun.

[pokergrader]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I find a lot of people that play limit poker even up to 10/20 and 15/30--

[/ QUOTE ]

Appx. 40% of the players at 15/30 are very bad. But the remaining 60% are from ok to very, very good; so you need to know how to play (in excess of playing fish) to win.

EDIT: And if you do not have the bankroll, you probably aren't good enough, as it quick to aquire at lower limits for anyone good enough to win there. Not being a dick here, but beating it is tougher than it looks. OTOH, it is not rocket science and easy for anyone who is good at poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well said. Learning how to break even with the TAGs is the hardest part of playing 10/20.

[brettbrettr]

[ QUOTE ]
I try to post in SSSH, but it's hard to keep intrested in posting when there's no one arguing with you.



[/ QUOTE ]

I'll be your Chris Dow.

[obsidian]

Your downswing looks pretty normal man. Check out me between hands 155k and 202k.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/1853/graph1hr.th.png (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graph1hr.png)

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4495/graph28ia.th.png (http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graph28ia.png)

[jba]

well I dropped a quick 50 bbs in 1000 hands of 3/6 tonight. so I took your advice and and dropped $40 play .5/1 NL in 200 hands. thanks for the advice man but you can keep your no limit BS to yourself

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $3</font>, CO calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $7, CO folds.

Flop: ($24.50) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP3 folds.


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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.


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Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG+1 folds.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, UTG+1 folds, Button folds, SB folds.



WTF NO LIMIT SUCKS EVERYONE RESPECTS MY RAISES!??!


ps: should I move down??

[uncleshady]

[ QUOTE ]
well I dropped a quick 50 bbs in 1000 hands of 3/6 tonight. so I took your advice and and dropped $40 play .5/1 NL in 200 hands. thanks for the advice man but you can keep your no limit BS to yourself


[/ QUOTE ]

I dont know if you are joking or otherwise, but another purpose of switching is you are no longer losing at 3/6 limit, you are winning (albeit a tiny amount) at NL 100. You can go back to 3/6 or whatever and play fresh, as money you didnt lose is money you wont have to win back. At least this is how I see it, but you could have been being silly and I gave you a serious reply, then ISSCKMS.

[jba]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
well I dropped a quick 50 bbs in 1000 hands of 3/6 tonight. so I took your advice and and dropped $40 play .5/1 NL in 200 hands. thanks for the advice man but you can keep your no limit BS to yourself


[/ QUOTE ]

I dont know if you are joking or otherwise, but another purpose of switching is you are no longer losing at 3/6 limit, you are winning (albeit a tiny amount) at NL 100. You can go back to 3/6 or whatever and play fresh, as money you didnt lose is money you wont have to win back. At least this is how I see it, but you could have been being silly and I gave you a serious reply, then ISSCKMS.

[/ QUOTE ]

this sounds great, but I was trying to win actually. it's not my fault I suck at all poker.

now I can't tell if you're being serious..

[uncleshady]

[ QUOTE ]
this sounds great, but I was trying to win actually. it's not my fault I suck at all poker.

now I can't tell if you're being serious..


[/ QUOTE ]

Damn potential third level sarcasm stalemates!

Nah, I was just trying to be helpful, but you didnt lose any more money, so a push is as good as a win when your downswinging...

[BoxTree]

[ QUOTE ]
then ISSCKMS.

[/ QUOTE ]

"Myself" is one word.

[uncleshady]

[ QUOTE ]
"Myself" is one word.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are right! Hand me a razor blade.

[JoshuaD]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I try to post in SSSH, but it's hard to keep intrested in posting when there's no one arguing with you.



[/ QUOTE ]

I'll be your Chris Dow.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[cambraceres]

[ QUOTE ]
Full table limit is so hard to make money at because someone will always outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]
I've heard this before somewhere.......hmm

[POKhER]

Only winning 2.65BB/100 @ 160x10^3 hands.... Oh man, Retire.... Seriously you're poor /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

How can you not be happy with that? Maybe i missed the huge bowl of sarcasum..... Let me go check.

[_TKO_]

[ QUOTE ]
Full table limit is so hard to make money at because I will always outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]

[usmfan]

[ QUOTE ]
ps: should I move down??

[/ QUOTE ]

Move up. Nobody respects your raises there.

[Raul Wong]

Friends dont let friends play limit holdem

[27offsooot]

Jba,
I did a similar thing as i was escaping from a ~350 bb downswing at 3/6 6m. I played like 300 hands at .5/1 NL, ran at a stellar -58 bb/100 and decided to move back to SH limit. Since then, i've been on fire, including a 10k streak at ~8bb/100

You'd be surprised how many people would call flop pushes/ with gutshots.

[poker_n00b]

[ QUOTE ]
Full table limit is so hard to make money at because someone will always outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly, they just don't seem to respect my raises. I think i will go couple of limits up.

[jba]

[ QUOTE ]
Jba,
I did a similar thing as i was escaping from a ~350 bb downswing at 3/6 6m. I played like 300 hands at .5/1 NL, ran at a stellar -58 bb/100 and decided to move back to SH limit. Since then, i've been on fire, including a 10k streak at ~8bb/100

You'd be surprised how many people would call flop pushes/ with gutshots.

[/ QUOTE ]

today on the way home from work, I had the terrific idea to start an OIC to try to get out of my funk. I quickly dropped $20 without noticing, and wondered how the hell I dropped 20BBs so quickly. Then I realized I was at a 1/2 table. SWEET! I could start over with a clean slate! So I switched to .5/1 and played 205 hands (results: -11bb), and started contemplating how boring it was going to be to grind out 61 bets at .5/1 (about halfway through I cheated and fired up a second table) and decided to quit.

on a high note, I managed to win another ticket to the PPM semis this weekend and that put me in a good mood. and I got some dinner.

so back to grinding for me. I can almost feel the upswing coming.

[andyexpat]

Halleluya - another convert lol /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[mackthefork]

[ QUOTE ]
I really don't get why anyone would EVER play no limit poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

Mack