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skillzilla
02-10-2007, 10:35 AM
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($61.95)
MP ($49.65)
CO ($217.15)
Button ($28.75)
SB ($46.25)
Hero ($50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $1.50, SB folds.

Flop: ($4.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($16.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($16.50) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39

recondite7
02-10-2007, 12:12 PM
Horribly, I think you misplayed every street.

Fold Preflop
As played fold to the minraise on the flop
As played turn is ok /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Check fold river

pavey21
02-10-2007, 12:15 PM
haha fold preflop? he was the BB. I dont usually raise hands like OOP when theres limpers because you don't get folds most of the time. As played...fold to the minraise, but if you don't, check/fold the river.

recondite7
02-10-2007, 12:16 PM
Sorry I meant check preflop, raise is horrible.

skillzilla
02-10-2007, 04:24 PM
i dont think raise is horrible, we are oop for the whole hand but mp limpers usually limp because there hand isnt good enough to raise and we cant just check every time we dont have aa/kk, this seems like a good spot to valuebet

Marshall28
02-10-2007, 04:27 PM
umm, your continuation bet on the flop isnt a value bet, its a semi-bluff ... you have 10 outs to most likely the best hand. regardless if u had 23 you should be betting the flop. i realize u have outs but u have to fold to his minraise, u r getting out cheap. move on to the next hand.

eigenvalue
02-10-2007, 04:53 PM
Fold on the flop. This looks like JT, a set or 2 pair. You don't have may outs in either case. For example vs JT you have only 6 outs (3K + 3T). A nice try on the river, but after a reraise, even if it was a minraise, your fold equity is close to nil!

thac
02-10-2007, 05:09 PM
I like a raise to punish the limpers here, so many of them like to limp in and fold to a raise. As played though, I fold to the flop minraise. You're very rarely looking for a K/Q here, and are looking for the gutshot, which, if villain has ANY clue what he's doing, he's not gonna continue with 4 to a straight on the board.

Rollos
02-10-2007, 05:46 PM
Raise preflop is like megastandard.
I would just check/fold this flop since it likely hit opponents range and we are OOP.
fold to flop miniraise.

Miko
02-10-2007, 05:50 PM
Raise pre-flop is like megastandard?

I hate being OOP in a raised pot, especially against "smart" players who like to float a lot (cq (is that English, I know it's dutch and don't know what it actually stands for but wtf) [censored] of 25NL players).

I c-bet/fold flop though or when called check/fold turn.

Unknown Soldier
02-10-2007, 05:56 PM
min raise pf, min bet flop, min rr his raise if he goes all in, call. All about having the image of a fish! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif


O.k. O.k. standard I guess (grunch btw) would be to bet 3 before the flop, you didn't bet enough. cbet your draw, fold to his min raise, you haven't got the odds. Turn is fine. River bluff is bad. It just looks like a missed draw. Obv. fold to his raise.

Triggerle
02-10-2007, 06:37 PM
Depending on my reads I fold to his min-raise on the flop. Calling is fine against many opponents, though. Definitely ceck/fold river.

Pre-flop raise is a must IMHO. I would make it $3 though, with one limper and the completed SB.

Phytopath
02-10-2007, 06:40 PM
Pre-flop is fine, I Check this sometimes and raise it others, nothing wrong with either play and depends on the table and your image.

I don't fold to the flop min-raise here either, I call and give up on a later street. I certainly don't be the river though.

Lordy
02-10-2007, 06:58 PM
Raise more pre-flop, fold to flop min-raise.

You have a gutshot. You're not going to make any more money when the Q hits, and the K might lose you more money if he has a made straight or 2 pair hand.

Bonesy
02-10-2007, 07:00 PM
Raise more pf. $1.50 is too small of a raise. I bet more on the flop too. OOP, I would probably fold to the flop miniraise. I just don't play hands like these well in that position with RIO and all.