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Imrahil
02-07-2007, 11:32 AM
Villain is 24/22/3.7 over 80 hands.

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Hero ($69.75)
BB ($40.20)
UTG ($63.05)
MP ($29.15)
Button ($53.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $6, Button calls $6.

Flop: ($24.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $39</font>, Button folds, Hero?

WarhammerIIC
02-07-2007, 11:37 AM
If you have some sort or read here that the villain has raised UTG with medium PPs, then you might have something to think about. If they flopped a set, I can't imagine them raising like this. Even if they had a strong feeling you had KK or AA and would go to the felt, it's taking a big risk.

I would push here, expecting to see TT, JJ, or QQ almost every time.

BoozeHound
02-07-2007, 11:51 AM
Tough spot. What is he thinking calling your re-raise with button left to act? Is Button horrible? Is it obvious that button will call behind to improve set odds? This wreaks of a set, but also of JJ,QQ, maybe TT.

jonyy6788
02-07-2007, 11:57 AM
I get it all-in....he's so aggro

Vyse
02-07-2007, 12:26 PM
poooosh

KurtSF
02-07-2007, 12:37 PM
*grunch*

After he pops you on the flop I think his range is: 33, 77, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, and at 22 PFR also 56, 78, 89, and 9T.

That's 5 hands you're behind, and 8 you're ahead of. I think you are very marginally ahead of his range here, though you will also be looking at AA and a set fairly often. Plus, at 3.7 AF I think you have some FE.

All-in.

BoozeHound
02-07-2007, 12:58 PM
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*grunch*

After he pops you on the flop I think his range is: 33, 77, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, and at 22 PFR also 56, 78, 89, and 9T.

That's 5 hands you're behind, and 8 you're ahead of. I think you are very marginally ahead of his range here, though you will also be looking at AA and a set fairly often. Plus, at 3.7 AF I think you have some FE.

All-in.

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From UTG, is this just suited, or all of these connectors?

Imrahil
02-07-2007, 01:11 PM
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*grunch*

After he pops you on the flop I think his range is: 33, 77, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, and at 22 PFR also 56, 78, 89, and 9T.

That's 5 hands you're behind, and 8 you're ahead of. I think you are very marginally ahead of his range here, though you will also be looking at AA and a set fairly often. Plus, at 3.7 AF I think you have some FE.

All-in.

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Lol, no FE. He has $20 remaining.

instigator
02-07-2007, 01:24 PM
I would push in here. This guys got QQ, JJ, TT or hes an idiot with AK. All of which you got crushed. He obviously would of reraised pre-flop with aces. So in my opinion u got the best hand here. A set is always a worry, but you cant live your life in fear of sets, especially considering he called a big reraise pre-flop. You could call and let him bluff of the rest of chips on the turn, although you dont want to risk an ace falling. And this is pointless as he would propably call your all in now with his JJ or QQ /images/graemlins/spade.gif

02-07-2007, 01:28 PM
I think a more realistic hand range is 33, 77, 88, 99-QQ "KK" maybe AA, but most people would have reraised this PF. Depends on villain, but his is usualy a set more often than overcards IMO.

WarhammerIIC
02-07-2007, 01:35 PM
I know his stats indicate major aggression PF (possibly with small pocket pairs like 33, 77, 88), but I would need a very specific read here to lay this down. I am very leery of giving someone credit for a small set when raising UTG and calling a re-raise. Maybe that's to my detriment, but I just don't see it. Even for a very aggressive player.

KurtSF
02-07-2007, 01:39 PM
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From UTG, is this just suited, or all of these connectors?

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Just suited. He's clearly a little wild preflop, and counting out hands like 78s and 9Ts is a mistake.

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Lol, no FE. He has $20 remaining.

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Missed that. You're right. Makes the decision a tougher.

I've run into a couple guys playing AA like this - calling the preflop RR, and once you've committed your flop c-bet getting all in. Anyone else seen this?

I think I still shove, but its pretty borderline.

02-07-2007, 01:47 PM
Considering Villains stat, I don`t think he is a donk. Flat calling the 8$ reraise with AA OOP and not reraising is bad play and not so common. He might have SCs, but given his style of play I think he would rather call the PF reraise with PPs then suited connectors, cause He`s OOP. Also, the flop is rainbow, so there`s no combo draw. I don`t think he would reraise big on flop with only an OESD. He must be aware that you are holding a good hand.

orange
02-07-2007, 02:14 PM
easy shove. also...wtf at FE? you dont want FE, you want him to call. plus villan never folds a better hand to a shove...ever.