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OrBit
02-07-2007, 02:08 AM
I've been playing lots of NL10, and I've been doing quite well but I tend to loose big pots occasionally from over pairs or a higher set. When I know I'm beat by a set I usually can't lay it down. From my experience, nobody seems to bluff big at NL10 because everybody knows that nobody can lay a hand.

MP1 was 14/5/1.3. I was almost positive I was beat, but I just couldn't lay this.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($5.30)
CO ($11.60)
Button ($13.05)
SB ($7.80)
BB ($13.45)
UTG ($11.80)
Hero ($25.80)
MP1 ($11.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.1</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.8</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $11.45</font>, Hero calls $7.05.

Turn: ($23.50) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($23.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $23.50

If this was a simple math problem of a flush draw, I knew I wasn't getting correct odds, but I felt like the possibility he was bluffing and possibility of pairing the board or spiking an A might add some outs to my flush draw.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($16.65)
CO ($1.20)
Button ($8.55)
Hero ($9.60)
BB ($13.25)
UTG ($6.15)
MP1 ($23.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.70, MP2 calls $0.70.

Flop: ($3.10) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $15.65</font>, Hero calls $6.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($27.35) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($27.35) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $27.35


This last pot I probably coudln't lay down...or could I?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($9.90)
BB ($10)
UTG ($10.55)
UTG+1 ($8.20)
MP1 ($3.15)
MP2 ($11.35)
MP3 ($18.35)
Hero ($10.25)
Button ($4.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $0.6</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.35) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.3</font>, Hero calls $1.30.

Turn: ($3.95) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8.1</font>, Hero calls $5.10.

River: ($20.15) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $20.15


Please critique thoroughly.

EMc
02-07-2007, 02:10 AM
These are all just beats or variance.