50NL 6-man KK good play?

[MightyJohn]

Villain is 16/1.5/5/50hands



Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.85
Hero: $52.75
CO: $41.40
Button: $56
SB: $50.85
BB: $133.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $7</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($14.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($38.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $34</font>, Hero thinks "Fu u rock" and folds.
Uncalled bets: $34 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $38.75

I think he is not a kind of guy who will 2 barell AK here, anything but that (and QQ) beats me here.His preflop raise is kinda small too soo this makes me even more confident that he have AA.

[Keys Myaths]

50 hands is a pretty terrible sample size to be making entire decisions off of.

[IceMuncher]

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50 hands is a pretty terrible sample size to be making entire decisions off of.

[/ QUOTE ]Poker's a game of incomplete information. A 16/1.5 guy over 50 hands is guaranteed to be tight player, it's a question of how tight. I think it's a good fold, we're not beating much.

[Speedlimits]

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Villain is 16/1.5/5/50hands



Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.85
Hero: $52.75
CO: $41.40
Button: $56
SB: $50.85
BB: $133.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $7</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($14.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($38.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $34</font>, Hero thinks "Fu u rock" and folds.
Uncalled bets: $34 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $38.75

I think he is not a kind of guy who will 2 barell AK here, anything but that (and QQ) beats me here.His preflop raise is kinda small too soo this makes me even more confident that he have AA.

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Push flop is so easy.

[Keys Myaths]

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A 16/1.5 guy over 50 hands is guaranteed to be tight player

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This is VERY untrue.

If you don't believe me, count your VPIP for your first 50 hands the next ten times you play. You'll see a very wide variety of results.

[Speedlimits]

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50 hands is a pretty terrible sample size to be making entire decisions off of.

[/ QUOTE ]Poker's a game of incomplete information. A 16/1.5 guy over 50 hands is guaranteed to be tight player, it's a question of how tight. I think it's a good fold, we're not beating much.

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This info doesn't mean he played the hand well.

[IceMuncher]

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A 16/1.5 guy over 50 hands is guaranteed to be tight player

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This is VERY untrue.

If you don't believe me, count your VPIP for your first 50 hands the next ten times you play. You'll see a very wide variety of results.

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What I should specify is that I don't think a 16/1.5 over 50 hands is going to turn out to be a maniac donk. He has TAG-ish tendencies, we can assume we have that much of a read. I didn't say we can peg him as a rock.

What 3-bets here PF that we beat on the turn, given that the guy is even slightly TAG? TT+ we lose to all but QQ, AK is discounted and unlikely. It's a small sample size, but we can get a little something out of it.

[Maneh]

1.5% are likely JJ+

But i probally 4-Bet All-In PF;

If he has Rockets, Rebuy and lets gamble again.

[MightyJohn]

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Villain is 16/1.5/5/50hands



Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.85
Hero: $52.75
CO: $41.40
Button: $56
SB: $50.85
BB: $133.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $7</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($14.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($38.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $34</font>, Hero thinks "Fu u rock" and folds.
Uncalled bets: $34 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $38.75

I think he is not a kind of guy who will 2 barell AK here, anything but that (and QQ) beats me here.His preflop raise is kinda small too soo this makes me even more confident that he have AA.

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Push flop is so easy.

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Yea and soo -EV , with this type of oponnent.
Note that he will for sure call me with JJ+.
And this is 42%-58% spot (pokerstove), of course sometimes i will grab this 24$ pot on the flop by pushing him of his AK,but i really dont think that he will nearly min-reraises me preflop with AK.

And i agree with icemuncher , i rarely see players that after 50 hands they are 16/1.5 and after another (lets say 150) are like 50VPIP donks.