50NL 6max: TT difficult flop decision

[chasern1]

villain is 20/17/6

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Hero ($62.75)
Button ($25.40)
SB ($143.50)
BB ($33.80)
UTG ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, Hero ?

[Vinetou]

Given the stats, I would say it is an easy fold. Given the reads, you might call. The only hand you can beat is an AK and AQ (unlikely he has it). When you called reraise preflop, you are looking for a set most of the time.

[barryc83]

Call here in position. He could still have a big A and fire. If he fires again on the turn fold. I rarely see someone fire 2 barrels in a RR pot with a whiffed AK.

[Vinetou]

But is it worth calling when all you can beat of his range is one hand out of 6 or 7 hands he would reraise with?

[spacetime]

This seems like a textbook fold given his stats.

[Vinetou]

Would you fold preflop or flop, then? Cause I would fold flop even though this guy is aggressive and will probably fire out on the flop with missed AK so I am really looking for a set here.

[Jouster777]

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This seems like a textbook fold given his stats.

[/ QUOTE ] Villain's stats seem aggro enough that we might even see some lower PPs here. AQ+ and JJ+ are all 3-bets I would say.

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But is it worth calling when all you can beat of his range is one hand out of 6 or 7 hands he would reraise with?

[/ QUOTE ] If he is only 3-betting AQ+ and JJ+ from the blinds then thats 32 combos we are ahead of and 24 we are behind. If he 3-bets light at all or if hero has been stealing from CO then his range is even wider.

A call seems reasonable here.

[spacetime]

Yeah I agree, many would fire out a missed AK but I think that he has a higher PP way more often then AK. He has good stats, I think we give him credit for JJ+ and move on.

Oh I am folding the flop, nothing wrong with calling PF IMO. Some might say "If your going to call PF and then fold this flop..." blah! its called evaluating on each street!

[barryc83]

"If you're gonna fold this flop then fold pf." This statement is correct here. He's firing any flop and you aren't getting odds to call for set value pf. This guy raises 17% of his hands, his range is most likely wider than JJ+/AK here. This is dependent upon how aggro OP has been lately. But if you're gonna just fold that flop then fold pf. Folding pf is a good move against a lot of opponents IMO.

[Imrahil]

I'd fold this PF unless villain had been 3betting you light.

[KurtSF]

*grunch*

You're bet looks like a blindsteal. Villain is hyper aggressive. I think he's 3-betting here with 99+ and AQ+.

What are your stats? What's your table image? Have you played with villain before?

I think here these are important considerations. Readless I'm OK with a fold and reload. But with players this LAGgy, if they've pushed out off hands before and think you are a nit they will make this move against you with all kinds of holdings. QTs, 67S, A2o, could be anything. I have had a lot of success calling here, even though that sounds like heresy.

$0.02

[MightyJohn]

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"If you're gonna fold this flop then fold pf." This statement is correct here. He's firing any flop and you aren't getting odds to call for set value pf. This guy raises 17% of his hands, his range is most likely wider than JJ+/AK here. This is dependent upon how aggro OP has been lately. But if you're gonna just fold that flop then fold pf. Folding pf is a good move against a lot of opponents IMO.

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I would agree if the heros stack was about 45 even 50 , but he have 62$ in front of him and villain covers.Soo he have odds for set.

[Acein8ter]

5 handed and 20/17... I'd say he hit JJ+ pp if he bumps to 7 PF. He could also have AKs and is just Cbetting...

You could call and if the turn is a rag, he may check if playing an AK sort of hand. (Unless he is capable of 2 barreling?) If you think that is the case, bet out if he checks...

[MightyJohn]

This depends on heros image too. If u were betting a lot pf, he may raise here with AQ, even AJ.