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evagaba

02-06-2007, 09:54 AM

One of the horrible hands I always seems to get involved in. Please help with this line.

Golden Palace No-Limit Hold'em, .10/.20(6 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

VILLIAN is 71/0/0 - 31 hands

UTG ($76.74)
VILLIAN ($18.97)
MP ($44.33)
BUTTON ($9.99)
HERO ($26.68)
BB ($9.80)

Preflop:
Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif

 1 folds , VILLIAN calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20, BUTTON raises to $0.40, HERO raises to $2.20, BB folds , VILLIAN calls $2.00, 1 folds , BUTTON calls $1.60

Flop:
2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif ($6.50 3 players)
 HERO bets $6.00, VILLIAN calls $6.00, BUTTON folds 

Turn:
6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif ($18.50 2 players)
 HERO checks, VILLAIN bets to $3.00, HERO calls $3.00

River: ($24 2 players)
Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
 HERO checks, VILLAIN bets to $7.77 and is ALL-IN, HERO folds

RAHZero

02-06-2007, 12:39 PM

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VILLIAN is 71/0/0

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With those stats, please for the love of God shove that turn. Seriously, a guy like that calls with a ton of crap that you beat there. Folding the river as played is pretty bad getting better than 4:1.

Sir Winalot

02-06-2007, 12:51 PM

Preflop-flop is goot. Open shove turn.

Keys Myaths

02-06-2007, 01:16 PM

Even though it's 31 hands, 71% is out of control. I worry the hell about the sample size here, but I'm not getting away from QQ at these stakes. This is so many different hands, that you're well ahead of villain's range here.

KurtSF

02-06-2007, 01:35 PM

OMG please open shove the turn.

Unknown Soldier

02-06-2007, 01:37 PM

c/f turn

JasonMcAuley

02-06-2007, 02:08 PM

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VILLIAN is 71/0/0

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With those stats, please for the love of God shove that turn. Seriously, a guy like that calls with a ton of crap that you beat there. Folding the river as played is pretty bad getting better than 4:1.

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Can anyone tell me what that 71/0/0 number represents?

Bonesy

02-06-2007, 02:28 PM

This is horrible as you may well have tossed the winning hand. That turn card is fine for you, push.

jmc999

02-06-2007, 02:31 PM

?!?

I call that river unless I have some amazing read on the guy. If he actually had AA or KK, I would have expected all the money to go in preflop.

RAHZero

02-06-2007, 02:33 PM

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VILLIAN is 71/0/0

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With those stats, please for the love of God shove that turn. Seriously, a guy like that calls with a ton of crap that you beat there. Folding the river as played is pretty bad getting better than 4:1.

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Can anyone tell me what that 71/0/0 number represents?

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It means 71% VPIP (he has voluntarily put money into the pot 71% of the time preflop in 31 hands), 0% PFR (he hasn't raised PF in these 31 hands), 0 TAF (total aggression factor, basically he's a calling station and doesn't raise or bet).

Unknown Soldier, I hope you're leveling us here.

evagaba

02-06-2007, 03:13 PM

God I suck.

Speedlimits

02-06-2007, 04:52 PM

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One of the horrible hands I always seems to get involved in. Please help with this line.

Golden Palace No-Limit Hold'em, .10/.20(6 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

VILLIAN is 71/0/0 - 31 hands

UTG ($76.74)
VILLIAN ($18.97)
MP ($44.33)
BUTTON ($9.99)
HERO ($26.68)
BB ($9.80)

Preflop:
Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif

 1 folds , VILLIAN calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20, BUTTON raises to $0.40, HERO raises to $2.20, BB folds , VILLIAN calls $2.00, 1 folds , BUTTON calls $1.60

Flop:
2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif ($6.50 3 players)
 HERO bets $6.00, VILLIAN calls $6.00, BUTTON folds 

Turn:
6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif ($18.50 2 players)
 HERO checks, VILLAIN bets to $3.00, HERO calls $3.00

River: ($24 2 players)
Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
 HERO checks, VILLAIN bets to $7.77 and is ALL-IN, HERO folds

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Bet turn wtf?

solinar

02-06-2007, 05:41 PM

I couldn't fold to this small of a bet compared to the pot size. You are probably beat, but you only have to win 1 in 4 times to make it +EV and its probably worth the last $7.77 just to see how he plays his hand each street and make a note of it.

Bonesy

02-07-2007, 01:51 AM

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God I suck.

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You probably don't suck. Sometimes when running bad we start thinking everything beats us and we play too passively or scared. Keep posting hands and reading. That's what we all do.