AK NL50 facing flop push

[Echelon]

i play a standard TAG game. (19/14/3.5)

SB is 35/25/5 over 120 hands
UTG is unknown


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Hero ($49.75)
UTG ($50.10)
MP ($49.25)
Button ($107.40)
SB ($111)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4.5</font>, Hero calls $4, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($13.50) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $106.5</font>, Hero calls $25.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($165.25) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($165.25) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $165.25

[LOwrestling2001]

you are getting 2:1 here, the villain 3b you all in, i'm thinking more often than not, your TPTK here is no good, unless the villain gets out of line a lot. he 3b you preflop, which is often AA or KK, or AK, but his flop play looks a lot like KK or AA. It could even be 99 if it's in his 3b range. Eitherway you don't beat too many hands that play like this.

[KurtSF]

Hi Echeleon, I'm Kurt. Let me introduce you to my friend, the value-call.

[BukNaked36]

That's such a dry board, about the best you can hope for is a split.

[MFpoker]

i'm a relative newb but i'm giving my opinion anyway. please get several other opinions too.

there are easier and more reliable ways to make $50. villain's stats make him suspicious, but is TPTK really worth your whole stack? i'd fold if i was of sound mind (not tilting).

[Echelon]

so just call his flop bet and reevaluate turn? or fold pf because being OOP sucks?

[Quester]

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so just call his flop bet and reevaluate turn? or fold pf because being OOP sucks?

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Preflop, either call (as you did), or re-raise him. Since you just called, you can't rule out KK or AA.

I don't mind calling the flop and seeing what the turn brings in this situation. I may even go crazy limp and call him down all the way. But as played, I fold to his push.

[LOwrestling2001]

call flop bet turn, and fold to a big raise, or c/c a reasonable bet on the river...i think this sounds about right, someone correct me if im wrong.

[Echelon]

hmm ok, no wonder my flop AF is 7

[barryc83]

If you're gonna fold this flop then just fold pf.

[AliasMrJones]

Let's see...he re-raised PF, flop is Kxx, he bet/3-bet all-in. At BEST you're splitting and I think almost all the time you're toast here. I fold.

[AliasMrJones]

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If you're gonna fold this flop then just fold pf.

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IMHO this is a tourney-donk kind of statement. Risking your stack on TPTK is something I've learned to avoid. At least in 50NL, when someone plays the flop like this, they have TP beat.

[barryc83]

This is a RR pot. I will go broke all day with TPTK in a RR pot. Yes he could have AA/KK but I cant lay it down. I just smoothcall the flop to induce a second barrel against this type of opponent.

[AliasMrJones]

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This is a RR pot. I will go broke all day with TPTK in a RR pot.

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And what kinds of hands do you think he's re-raising OOP here? Which of those hands do we beat when he re-raises the Kxx flop?

[barryc83]

Why OP raises this flop I have no idea, but once he does, we're gonna fold? Think of how many times someone cant lay down QQ here. You stick in 1/2 of your stack and then fold?

[kazana]

Calling a reraise pf in bad position is questionable at best, imo.
Add to that, that AK would prefer to see all 5 cards, I'd rather push than call.

Of course this depends on what you think SB's pf reraise range is and what he'll call a push with.
Do the math and profit next time round.

[raistlinx]

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Calling a reraise pf in bad position is questionable at best, imo.
Add to that, that AK would prefer to see all 5 cards, I'd rather push than call.

Of course this depends on what you think SB's pf reraise range is and what he'll call a push with.
Do the math and profit next time round.

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I like the push over the call as well pf. I'm torn between folding and pushing though.

[deucesevenoff]

With such a dry board, I think we are either way ahead or way behind (of both players). I like a call on the flop and then re-evaluate on the turn.

If we are behind, I'd think he would have AA (I think KK would slowplay on such a dry flop). I think if he has AA, then we are not deep enough to avoid going broke on this hand (though I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

If we are ahead, and he has a hand like QQ I doubt that he would fire another large bet at the pot on the turn.

[spacetime]

Mr Jones,

I completely agree with you. We are getting 2 to 1 here and I don't think we winning enough to make this profitable.

[Bonesy]

Hero is getting a little over 3:1 on the flop call not 2:1. Also, I highly doubt SB's 3betting range is as tight as posters are saying. That LAG raises a lot and even though we don't know how light he may be 3betting, in general, it is lighter than the norm. How light, I don't know. I also don't know if he is positionally aware and if that means his 3bet from the SB should carry more weight. Either way, I think KQ and KJs are definitely in villain's range. Whether he plays those hands postflop as in this hand, I'm not sure but I'm not putting this LAG on AA, KK's and AK only pf.

In the hand, I think calling the flop is best. That is one dry flop and UTG should fold most hands that he misses anyways.