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Fidodell
02-05-2007, 12:25 AM
Villian is 62/7/0.25 over 110 hands... Before this hand he's been calling me with anything... and same pattern was emerging.. I raise pre he calls... I CB he calls.. I bet turn he calls... I check river he bets I fold... guess what same pattern happened here... is it ok to call this on the river given the situation??

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
hero: $25
UTG+1: $45.45
CO: $24.90
Button: $29.90
SB: $27.10
BB: $12.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1</font>, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $2</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($6.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $5</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($16.35, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $11.5</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $39.35
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 showed 9h Kd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero mucks Qs Qh</font>

TomBrooks
02-05-2007, 03:52 AM
Newb guess...

Make a $5 blocking bet on the river. Fold to a raise.

How's that?

bensterk
02-05-2007, 04:51 AM
If that same pattern had happened over a few hands, I see nothing wrong with a call here assuming he's just trying to steal.

avfletch
02-05-2007, 06:41 AM
I'd check the turn. With the top card pairing you're just forcing out a lot of hands that you beat but you're never making a K fold.

Nocturnal
02-05-2007, 07:03 AM
If he really is calling you "with anything" and disrespecting your cbets then you need to tighten up preflop and just valuebet him to death with your legitimate hands.

QQ is obviously a legit hand, so there is no avoiding this situation.

Have you ever taken a different line vs this opponent than betting flop, betting turn? If you are constantly folding the river vs this opponent, then you are betting the turn too light and need to reevaluate your play on this street.

Potting the flop is fine. Drawy board, no free cards, etc etc and he's calling all your cbets anyway, so this bet is for value.

What you need to know is how aggressive villain is. The answer to that question determines how you play the rest of the hand. If he is loose passive and willing to call down light, but unwilling to bet his marginal hands himself, then you need to bet the turn for value. I fire $3-4 here.

Then on the river, I am betting $5 and folding to a raise (assuming he is loose passive). If he is loose aggressive, I am check calling a bet on the river as that type of player will easily be bluffing missed draws frequently enough here.

redCashion
02-05-2007, 09:14 AM
Make a habit of checking turn and calling river bluffs with any kind of hand against donks like this. And that's absolutely the line I would take here.

munkey
02-05-2007, 09:19 AM
i agree with redcashion.

It's hard to read his hands and we're WA/WB so check/c turn.
Often these kinds of villans bet weaksauce so I often c/call to showdown. This shows up over time in our superior starting hands vs theirs.

Then when you hit TP type of hand vbet all streets but be wary of pairing boards as they often float with gutshots/bottom pair.

Basically I bet until I suspect I'm behind.